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larousse #1691678 10/02/06 11:02 PM
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Why you didn't tell WW about her BF visit to you?

I did. She doesn't believe it. Her BF wouldn't do that to her. She has witnessed BF do things to me in front of her, so I am at a loss as to why WW cannot believe what happened.

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ToddAC,

I am beginning to think maybe there are some parallels between you and WW, Myrta and Stanley and my WW and me. Three men who idolized their wives believing they were perfection incarnate and could do no wrong. That is a lot of responsibility to place on a person. I haven't given it much more thought than that. It is just something I started thinking about after reading that thread you mentioned yesterday.

I don't know. I don't try to understand or explain WW's A any longer. The Why doesn't really matter to me. In WW view, it is all my fault, so no help there either.

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Todd,

Maybe your WW is getting the advice not only of deny everything but also of going back to the marriage from a position of power, like submiting you and punishing you for leaving her. Cosmopolitan kind of advice I guess.

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Todd,

Maybe your WW is getting the advice not only of deny everything but also of going back to the marriage from a position of power, like submiting you and punishing you for leaving her. Cosmopolitan kind of advice I guess.

WW told me that her BF has told her not to get back with me. Her next best friend has adivised her to swallow her pride and get back with me. She listens to BF more. But, it doesn't really matter anyway.

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Hmm Todd. WW seems to think it's her decision. You left her right? Why does she think she chooses?


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entitlement comes to mind...

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Hmm Todd. WW seems to think it's her decision. You left her right? Why does she think she chooses?

No, not her decision one little bit. But apparently, her friends think so.

ToddAC #1691685 10/03/06 12:29 AM
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Todd,

I wonder if you may need a kind of letter B letter, in which you ask her specifically no to contact you unless she meets the conditions needed to even contemplate to see her again.

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Pio, if you were in SLP, were you in La Huasteca Potosina? or were you in some christian tour to el Valle del Silencio? lol

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Todd,

I wonder if you may need a kind of letter B letter, in which you ask her specifically no to contact you unless she meets the conditions needed to even contemplate to see her again.

I didn't realize that there was a Plan B letter.

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I think Larousse is right Todd - She's so agrivating you and sucking the life out of you that Plan B - a very dark one might be the only way for you to get peace and maybe even wake her up.


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larousse #1691689 10/03/06 12:34 AM
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My day was like this:

The appartment upstairs needed a plomber to solve a filtration problem to my bathroom. Then I needed a man to take away the damaged plaster and put fresh one.
The man that took away the plaster bloked the tubes of the bathtube. Now I need a plomber.

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ALL his needs EXCEPT SF. Your emotional, physical, mental health and wellbeing is more important than him getting his jollies.

Stef - I am sure you can see this is working. He is changing.

Meet any divorce talk with Reverse Babble - I posted you a link on reverse babble - use it on your wayward spouse.

Stef - This stuff is good and it is working. Your WS is being drawn back to you.

Avoid LB's, don't be needy and clingy.

This is the best news you've had for weeks!

And Yes - I know I suck. But YOU know I'm right.

First of all, Stef went out for a drink after work tonight with friends...and had a really good time!

Second of all, I do know you're right.

Lunch went pretty well today. He didn't touch me much(although he found little ways to do it without seeming "romantic") or kiss me, but he flirted and teased, so it was kind of nice. We haven't acted that way towards each other in a really long time.

Our fall is record hot, so AC's are a must right now. MIL's AC is not working so I was informed this evening that he might be spending the night here tonight and definitely tomorrow night. He called me at work to tell me this and to "just talk", I think. He told me some more stories.

He called later tonight and said he wasn't coming over tonight, but he still was tomorrow night. The good news is, when he told me that he wasn't coming over tonight, I was not disappointed. And I'm not really all that excited about him coming over tomorrow. I'm starting to let go, and I feel good about that.

I'm also happy that the past few times I've talked to him, he actually talked to me like I'm a human being and not a piece of dirt. Let's hope he can keep that up.

Third of all, I have not gotten the rabbit, or even researched it...I know where I can get the real thing when I want it!...even though I'm not supposed to (who made up that stupid rule anyway?) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


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"Sometimes, I'm afraid and I don't feel that tough...but I'll stand back up."
larousse #1691691 10/03/06 12:36 AM
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There is even like a format of B letter. Me thinks BK might have one.

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Stph20, rabbit is expensive, better pay a consultation with Dr. Harley. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

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bigkahuna #1691693 10/03/06 12:41 AM
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I think Larousse is right Todd - She's so agrivating you and sucking the life out of you that Plan B - a very dark one might be the only way for you to get peace and maybe even wake her up.

Thanks BigK. If you could just get Pio to agree to this.

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Well, I'm not desperate YET. It hasn't been that long

But it will be if bigk keeps grounding me!

Yes, BigK, I understand why you're doing it, I'm just kidding!


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Third of all, I have not gotten the rabbit, or even researched it...I know where I can get the real thing when I want it!...even though I'm not supposed to (who made up that stupid rule anyway?)


That would be the BigK. But note, he is the official MB rule maker this month. If you think BigK is tough, just wait. I am the rule maker next month. hehehe

ToddAC #1691696 10/03/06 12:47 AM
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That would be the BigK. But note, he is the official MB rule maker this month. If you think BigK is tough, just wait. I am the rule maker next month. hehehe

That makes me a little nervous. What do you have up your dirty, wrinkled sleeve?


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ToddAC #1691697 10/03/06 12:48 AM
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'I am the rule maker next month. hehehe'

After second treatment Todd I would be very afraid of you as rule maker.

Hahahaha

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