Actually last night I chatted to Bob Pure about that thread and he wondered if it was a troll

LMAOPMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2much,

After careful inventory, I have discovered that I bought only black cables ties nad white cable ties. At first that seemed reasonable because they are so practical. Then it occurred to me that it is odd that I didn't buy any grey cable ties. So my new cable ties are black and white with no grey. I was wondering if there might not be a hidden meaning in that too? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Pio,

Life offers free lessons sometimes.

Heed.

I did exfoliate the feet and hot wax them last night. I discovered that hot wax, among other things, is very appropriately named. After I regained consciousness, I decided to wax my hands as well. At first I though it was a good idea and I went on to sleep. But this morning I'm not so sure. It is really difficult to do things with all my fingers stuck together. I'm not sure hand waxing is a really good idea. I'll be glad when this stuff wears off!

Luna - I think this is good Plan A behaviour. Heck he might even wake up. Who knows. But Stef must play hard to get. No SF.

And we don't ride kangaroos.

Pio - forget the third star already. I'm working on getting a fourth <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Well, Good Morning Big K. I see you are still around. I am up about 2 hours too early.

You have a nice take on Stef's sitch it seems. I am sure it will be helpful to her.

After reading the posts and getting caught up, I have decided that the people on TKO could be like the Navajo code talkers. There is so much based on history that it would be difficult for newbies to step in and automatically understand a lot of the allusions.

Edited because I am not awake enough to be lucid just yet.

LOL Fraidycat - it does take a little while to get to know everyone and warm up to TKO but it's a bit of fun isn't it.

I hope we can all help Stef.

Oh and good morning - it's 9PM here on my side of the world.

Of course it's fun otherwise I wouldn't be here. After 2 years of trying and not understanding what my motives were and finally finding this site, I feel like I have new hope for my M. It's a relief to find so much insight. And such clever people also. Pio routinely cracks me up.

Well if we were all so damn smart our marriages wouldn't have been in trouble and we wouldn't be here would we?

I can't imagine battling infidelity for 2 years before finding this site. I take my hat off to you.

You have a good point. I am stubborn and had a lot of help from Om and a few other sources, but this philosophy and unique look at problems in marriages seems to be the most realistic one I have seen. I was one of the lucky ones. I didn't completely destroy every thing I had.

So that sounds like you were the OW? is that correct? I can't imagine getting jack from my wife's OM help wise? Are you ready to share a bit of your situation?

Yes I was the OW. I am married for 37 years now and never entertained the idea of anyone besides my H. I fell in love with a very close friend (widower) who was very emotionally needy and I was too apparently. But didn't realize it. He had already been down the disasterous road of infidelity and he did every thing in his power to see that we didn't end up in a PA and tried at just about every turn to discourage me. But since his sitch in life was so bad he couldn't really help but take my emotional support. We became very close in all respects. Finally, he called a halt to it after finding a new lady and fell in love with her and moved on. I was addicted at this point and have spent the better part of the last two years trying to figure out just what in the world was wrong with me. Losing the friendship and emotional support aspect of the R was devastating to me. I have never told my H and that's one reason that I didn't want to post on here. I will carry this secret to my grave, but in the meanwhile, I am trying to gently illuminate my problems to him without revealing all. He is responding and things are getting much better. I know that it's a far cry from the proper way to handle all this, but it's my choice.

I have been racking my brain all day. I have absolutely no recollection of buying the cable ties. I must have had a black out.

LOL Pio. Maybe Todd ordered them for you?

Fraidycat - I see the meaning of the username now. I hope you are in NC with your OM?

Maybe you were in the fog Pio?? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Or they are a bonus freebie for buying all the nuts and bolts. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

No Big K, I am not in NC. It's a small town and we share a common interest and I have to see him and his new lady at least once a week and we are trying to reestablish an appropriate friendship. But it has been excruiciating for me. To go completely NC would have meant I would have been a shut in and that's no exageration.

WOW you still have a lot of years left to carry this secret before your grave. WOW. I hope you can get some peace. A very non-MB course of action you have selected but I'm not going to lecture you or try to change your mind. I hope we can give you the support you need.