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KiwiJ #1692498 10/05/06 08:46 PM
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No, wait that could be a plus.

If they're missing some attractive teeth in the front they're not in.

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Am oxymoron is something that is mutually exclusive by definition - like military intelligence. A paradox are the twosome you often run into on the golf course on Wednesday morning.

piojitos #1692500 10/05/06 08:50 PM
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LOL Pio. That's damn funny.


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Todd, I will personally screen them.

If they're under 80 they're not in.

Hmm... my cutoff age is a little lower than that.

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Thankyou for your post FF. I understand and I am glad that things are working out well for you.


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ToddAC #1692503 10/05/06 08:55 PM
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I think a nice young man named "Butch" should do nicely.

KiwiJ #1692504 10/05/06 09:08 PM
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I think a nice young man named "Butch" should do nicely.


I'm not sure you are taking SF completely off the table with that one.

piojitos #1692505 10/05/06 09:17 PM
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estrela,

Is WH only limited to phone calls or is he still taking business trips and vacations with OW? Have you become a full partner yet?

Hi Pio,
I am back. DDs are sleeping and I already finished talk with H.
I was thinking in following bigk advice and start a post but I like this one so...
Update: since june, we've been having dates 2x a week, spending every weekend together as a family, we traveled together (just two of us), and he's pretty much either at home or working (no late late hours anymore or business trips). So I am pretty sure there is no more A. HOWEVER, he's been telling me he was not talking to her anymore, so when I found the record of the calls it was a big painful lie that hurt me.
Anyway, we just had a long talk now. I explained to him why he cannot talk to her anymore, even if it is just a couple of times a month, and just about business. I read through Surviving an Affair to him. If he got it this time? I hope so. I guess I was not ready for another lie, but the thing is each time it happens we go a little deeper. So in the end I think there is hope. I want this M to work. I am working hard at it. But I was very clear to him that NC and no more lies are kind of basic.
He told me also that he sees now how opportunistic she is and he told me he has no respect for her anymore (nor any other feelings).
Well, I guess I am more relaxed now. How are you doing?


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estrela #1692506 10/05/06 09:18 PM
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"Paradox"

OMG, I just got it.

Duh!!

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Thanks Kiwi, I just got it also. But around here that "Paradox" would be seen on Thursday afternoons.


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piojitos #1692508 10/05/06 09:23 PM
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Am oxymoron is something that is mutually exclusive by definition - like military intelligence.


And jumbo shrimp.

ToddAC #1692509 10/05/06 09:28 PM
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Todd, you have obviously never seen an Australian King Prawn.

Darn it, BigK, I have to admit there's nothing nicer or tastier or BIGGER.

KiwiJ #1692510 10/05/06 09:32 PM
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Yep - Aussie seafood is the best Jen.


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estrela #1692511 10/05/06 09:33 PM
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estrela,

I have been in that position. I think the crisis was yours - not his. I know from experience.

I got some great advice from bigger once (many times actually) and he asked me what I would do if I found that gemela had broken NC again. He told me to ignore it. You have what is important. You have WH back with you. You have him in a place where you can work on your M and hopefully get to recovery. While phone calls hurt you, they probably hurt him too. It is okay to tell him how they make you feel but don't go beyond that. You said:

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I explained to him why he cannot talk to her anymore, even if it is just a couple of times a month


You cannot control WH's behavior. If he chooses to talk to her, he will. You can explain to him that calling her is a violation of NC and that it will not allow the A to end but, beyond that, you can't dictate anything to him.

So I want to pass along the favor that bigger did for me. Ask yourself what you will do the next time you discover that WH is talking to OW. Think about it because I guarantee it will happen. If you are mentally prepared for it and have your response already considered, it will go very well for you.

I am not saying your M is over if he calls her again. On the contrary. Be prepared and it will help you be strong and fair and the calls won't derail your good work.

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Darn it BigK, through gritted teeth, I have to agree with you.

Oh that hurt.

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But around here that "Paradox" would be seen on Thursday afternoons.


Difference in "cultures" I guess.

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It's Wednesday afternoon's here as well.

Sheesh, is there any area of our culture that hasn't been taken over by you guys.

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Oh my! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> I think I tried to show in my way why lies are bad, disrepectful & manipulative. FC, I hope you find peace & you give your H the respect he deserves to find peace as well.

It took so long to catch up on this thread I have no time to post. Must read & get beauty sleep. Pio, maybe you should add beauty sleep to your regimen of body improvements.

Todd, how's things? Can't get the Christy Brinkley cheeks stuck on a blond man with burns out of my mind. Oh, & scabs on the head too. Still, you're a sweet heart.

Kiwi, remind your daughter you have American friends here at TKO who might be sensitive to harsh comments about our proclivities. Mostly we mean well.

Hey luna, hey larousse, bigK, melody ALL TKO group.

The dog is doing well. She has given up her hiding places & is back in the main living areas of the house. She's still not quite back to her regular eating habits. My youngest was SO pleased when he came home from school today to find her out & about he practically cried with relief. He's prone to crying.

The beeping is over! I wonder if I'll sleep better. I didn't manage to get all the million chores done today as I'd intended but the beep & the dog were biggies.

'night All. Take care & sleep well.


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Barramundi, Moreton Bay Bugs, King Prawns.

Slobber, drool, slobber.

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Does it smell like a beauty parlor in here or is it just me?

ML, as always, I admire your passion. I wonder what is wrong with me right now. Rhetorical question BTW so don't answer. I'm going to the garage to look at tools.

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