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nams #1693158 10/09/06 08:57 AM
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Hey Nam

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I think Pio refers to the phone call he made more than a year ago to G. G was in US, Pio was in SA.

lunamare #1693160 10/09/06 09:51 AM
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Good morning Luna. Happy day off.

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Also...Todd?.... have you found a support group, yet,...ALON..or something....to help you....and also your sons with your WS's alcoholic addiction?


Not yet. Transportation is still a problem but looking for a facility close enough to walk to.

In Italy, isn't there a tradition involving a roasted capon?

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Pio, I'm not sure when you changed your signature line but just saw it over on the T&L thread. Very funny. If there's any way of marketing it, I say "Go for it". TT

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Hi Todd, any plans for today?

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Hi Todd, any plans for today?

Plans? I ain't got no stinkin' plans.

I decided to eat healthy Saturday night so I went to the local deli. They have a great salad bar so I decided that would be my dinner. I had never eaten sunflower seeds in my life. There they were, nestled between the boiled eggs and the honey mustard cole slaw. So, I sprinkled a liberal amount on my bed of lettuce. I learned something about sunflower seeds: I am allergic to them. I broke out in hives on my face, neck, shoulders, stomach and lower legs. It had to be the sunflower seeds because I have eaten every other ingredient many times. Are sunflower seeds a common allergen?

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Ouch, so sorry.

larousse #1693165 10/09/06 11:32 AM
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I'm almost sure that you have eaten sunflowers oil. It's one of the most commun cooking oil and is also mixed in vegetable oil.

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Do you remember the reparation in my ceiling, the plumber without crack and all that? Well, last night the fresh oil painting started to have little 'bags' like drops. I thought it was me who had applyed to much painting. Nope, it was water. I had to take off the painting and a line of 50 cms long and 2 cm longs of water started to appear. It doesn't drop too much but it will grow I'm sure.

larousse #1693167 10/09/06 11:39 AM
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Todd,

did you see a doctor for the allergie?

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Hahahaha

Now is my turn to have a monologue.

I bet that G has arrived. I feel like Aunt to Pio. Lol.

Luna could be taking a shower. Nah... maybe. 2M is in full mommy activities. Nam bought her self a bounch of alarms to fill her house drawers.

Todd,
I was wondering what do you mean when you say that you have not implement NC with your WW. You call her frecuently?

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[color:"blue"] N A M,
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[color:"green"] Here is part of the lyrics of the Mexican Birthday's song for you:

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Las Mañanitas[/color]
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[color:"red"]Estas son las mañanitas
que cantaba el rey David.
Hoy por ser tu cumpleaños
te las cantamos a ti.

Despierta, mi bien, despierta;
mira que ya amaneció.
Ya los pajarillos cantan;
la luna ya se metió

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[color:"orange"] *************************** [/color]
Las Mañanitas music. (Plays with Real Player)

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Todd,

did you see a doctor for the allergie?

Nah, the symptoms were over in 24 hours or so. No more sunflower seeds.

ToddAC #1693171 10/09/06 12:02 PM
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Do you have other allergies?

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I'm awake Nams! I am awake!

I have been thinking about 2much's challenge to list three things that we could improve in our marriage. One of my WW's major criticisms has been what she considers my lack of spontaniety. This is her idea of being spontaneous. Let's say we have planned a family vacation at the beach. We decide in May to go down the second week in June as soon as the kidlets are out of school. My default approach is to make reservations at our usual place, get confirmation and we are ready to go when the time comes. That particular week is busy in this part of Florida because everyone is waiting for school to adjourn for the summer to head to the beach.

Now, my WW's idea of being spontaneous is to not make a reservation and drive down and "find a place". For many years, I have tried to explain that that is not being spontaneous. Spontaneous means you come home from work one day and with no plans and say, let's go to the beach. I like that kind of spontaniety. I cannot recall how many times I have tried to accommodate her "spontaniety" and simply not make reservations. We drove around one night until midnight before we found accommodations, then it was a dirty, over-priced place. Still, she maintains that it made her happy. In the interest of compromise, I agreed to do every other trip her way, with the intervening trip my way. To this day, she still likes to go down and "take her chances".

WW called yesterday so I thought of 2much's challenge and decided to ask WW what were the Big 3? She said GM, Ford and Chyrsler. JK. Here they are:

1. I have to trust her;
2. I have to understand that she is going to spend time and have fun with her friends. Please allow me to translate this from babble to reverse babble if that is the correct terminology. What she means is: I am going to go to a bar periodically with coworkers and friends and drink;
3. I cannot be checking on her every five minutes. For the record, I have never "checked" on her until I was suspicious that she was having an affair. She has always had more or less complete freedom because I trusted her. As I explained to her, it is her job to earn my trust back, not a gift that I give for no reason. She didn't like that.

But, y'all will be happy to know that yesterday I gave her the verbal version of Plan B. I told her no more contact unless there is an emergency with the boys. Honestly, her babble and fog about trust got to me. Each time we discuss the honesty issue, she ratchets off her earlier story another notch or two.

Here's a sterling example. When we first initiated contact a few weeks ago, I told her that R had to be based on honesty and that she was denying an A ever took place. She said that OM was impotent and couldn't "get it up". It is charming to hear your wife talk that way about another man BTW. I asked then, the two of you did absolutely nothing. She said that yes, he tried but couldn't "get it up". She said that he "touched" her. That is her euphemism for manual stimulation. She also said that there was no oral sex. The next time we talked she backed off the "he touched me" admission, so the only thing she admitted to is that he tried to "make love" to her but couldn't. When we talked about the trust issue yesterday, I brought up these contradictions. I told her that it was rather odd that she would not allow OM to perform oral sex on her or "touch" her but yet was willing to let him put his penis where he pleaased if only he could perform. Then she said that no, he never tried to "make love" to her, because he knew that he couldn't. This "friendship" as she describes it has continued for over four years. I have no idea if she is still seeing him or not. But whether she is or not doesn't really matter at this point. I also asked about what she described as the "new man in my life". She said that she just told me that to "hurt me". That was the log that broke the camel's back for me. She has no clue and I do not think she ever will.

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Larousse,

Not sure why, but your birthday song looks like red font to me. Very weird.

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Do you have other allergies?

No other food allergies of which I am aware. There are many foods I don't like and pretend to be allergic to them....

ToddAC #1693175 10/09/06 12:15 PM
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Lol, I made you a question in some of the last hour posts, Do you pretend to be allergic to questions too?

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larousse #1693176 10/09/06 12:22 PM
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Todd I think you did very well telling her the verbal B plan. The B letter has an added effect that they can go back and read it.

I'm sorry she is so entitled.

Of course the things she mentions have nothing to do with the marriage but with ther WW behavior.

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Todd, ouf course the song is not in red font, it just look like red but it's not red, trust me.

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