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I didn't SAY anything. That was merely my thought at the time. It was like a dramatic pause. It was an "aside", if you will. It was a bit like film noir dialogue. Gemela says she will never leave again. Suddenly the lights dim, the spotlight shines on me. I turn to the side and say to the audience "we will see". Get a grip dude. Yes, I'm hip. It's like when the Tasmanian devil is buzzing around Bugs and Bugs turns to the audience and says: I wonder when he will get tired. Entirely appropriate for a cartoon; not for two spouses who just reunited. You took a positve and twisted it with a negative thought. I am suggesting that you try to develop a preemptively positive approach and attitude. That's all.
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BigK,
How does Australia feel about NK's nuclear and missle capabilities?
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'morning folks!
sheesh, enough already with nit picking the price of gas. No wonder y'all get lost & can't ask for directions, you can't let go the little stuff until someone says they're wrong.
To me G's comment to the girls about never leaving was manipulative, premature, & certainly not POJA with Pio. He does have something to say about this. My feeling is she should be approaching this from a much more humble position. BigK I don't think you'll agree. It's as if she walked in & said "I'm back!" & expects all to be well because she wishes it to be so. What about the changes & hard work needed for Pio to want her back? Pio's response of "well see" seems appropriate.
I can get the brand of Australian licorice (too lazy to go back & search it out) you talked about Todd. It does cost over $10 a pound though. What do you pay BigK?
Kiwi, I was joking with the looks American comment. I can imagine some of my fellow countrymen making that comment because your daughter isn't wearing some traditional garb from yesteryear.
Like it or not here's my latest thought on my ability to finally let go of wanting ex & the marriage to work. What finally sent me on the road to recovery was understanding ex was being himself & was not inhabited by some infidelity alien. He really was a liar, a cheat, he really did want a new life without me as a part time dad. He was not the man I married (thought I married) & he had no desire to be that man.
People do change for the worse & it's not because of forces outside themselves they have no control over. They are selfish & want what they want, feel entitled to it, no matter who it hurts. Some come to realize they have screwed up big time & really are sorry & ashamed & will do what it takes to regain trust & love from the BS. Others will not no matter how good the plan A.
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Yes, I'm hip. It's like when the Tasmanian devil is buzzing around Bugs and Bugs turns to the audience and says: I wonder when he will get tired. Entirely appropriate for a cartoon; not for two spouses who just reunited. You took a positve and twisted it with a negative thought. I am suggesting that you try to develop a preemptively positive approach and attitude. That's all. Not entirely accurate. Keep in mind that gemela and I have not had any discussion of groundrules. let's say hypothetically that she intends to stay here and also intends to phone OM every day. That's not going to happen. Maybe that isn't her intent. But since we have had no discussions about boundaries, I don't think it is unfair to think "we'll see". I think I need to see her offer before I accept as a given that she is staying.
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No doubt. If there is any radioactive fallout from the tests, you guys are going to get it all. Gravity flows downhill and you guys are below North Korea on the globe.
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To me G's comment to the girls about never leaving was manipulative, premature, & certainly not POJA with Pio. He does have something to say about this. My feeling is she should be approaching this from a much more humble position. BigK I don't think you'll agree. It's as if she walked in & said "I'm back!" & expects all to be well because she wishes it to be so. What about the changes & hard work needed for Pio to want her back? Pio's response of "well see" seems appropriate. If my comprehension and memory are correct, Pio's WW made the comment to DD2 after DD2 cried and said she didn't want her Mom to leave again. To me, that makes WW's comment entirely different. If WW had made that comment to Pio, I would agree with you.
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I can get the brand of Australian licorice (too lazy to go back & search it out) you talked about Todd. It does cost over $10 a pound though. What do you pay BigK? Cute Nams. Good Morning BTW. Gemela's intentions will be clear soon enough. I only saw it as a positive. Maybe I just take things at face value too easily?
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It does cost over $10 a pound though. US dollars or Australian dollars?
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I don't think it is unfair to think "we'll see". I think I need to see her offer before I accept as a given that she is staying. I agree Pio. That talk is important.
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Yes, I'm hip. It's like when the Tasmanian devil is buzzing around Bugs and Bugs turns to the audience and says: I wonder when he will get tired. Entirely appropriate for a cartoon; not for two spouses who just reunited. You took a positve and twisted it with a negative thought. I am suggesting that you try to develop a preemptively positive approach and attitude. That's all. Not entirely accurate. Keep in mind that gemela and I have not had any discussion of groundrules. let's say hypothetically that she intends to stay here and also intends to phone OM every day. That's not going to happen. Maybe that isn't her intent. But since we have had no discussions about boundaries, I don't think it is unfair to think "we'll see". I think I need to see her offer before I accept as a given that she is staying. Pio, Didn't WW make that comment to DD2 after DD2 cried and said that she didn't want Mommy to leave again? That, to me, makes it very different. What offer do you expect to see from WW? Hey, BTW, read my emails to you again.
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It does cost over $10 a pound though. US dollars or Australian dollars? Ha - Screw that - Pounds? English or US? That's why I didn't play
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I learned the hard way that a spouses presence does not mean they understand the situation clearly. I also learned the hard way words are cheap.
During our year of "recovery" I was told many times things were going great, ex saw no problems, not to worry all was well & I was doing all I could. OK, but the marriage still went down the tubes.
Sorry if I'm a cynic but it's born of experience. The words need to show a real understanding of what's gone wrong & there needs to be a thoughtful plan for how to proceed.
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That, to me, makes it very different. What offer do you expect to see from WW? I can't accept it like that because everything depends on her level of self-entitlement. I have no idea what she feels is her right. I don't expect anything at all from WW. I don't expect her to even mention the A. I expect her to try to ignore it. Is that an expectation? I think I contradicted myself. Darn!
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One troy ounce = 480 grains One avoirdupois ounce = 437.5 grains
One troy pound = 12 troy ounces = 5760 grains
One avoirdupois pound = 16 avoirdupois ounces = 7000 grains
Screwy system. Obviously poor planning. I think it results from the fact the the french can't even get along with themselves.
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U.S. pounds as in weight. Perhaps it would be more understandable if we ask what you pay BigK (in U.S. dollar equivilent) for a typical one serving box of licorie.
Yes, the comment about never leaving can be seen in a different light because of the circumstances under which it was said. I can understand during the emotion of the moment a mother would say that to her child. However, there is so much going on, so much at stake I would tend to VERY careful with the words I use.
Perhaps I would have said I love you so much & I've missed you so much it hurt me to be away from you. But it's understandable that in the heat of the moment the words came out the way they did. I just hope they don't come back to bite her in the [censored]. It will be something DD will remember ALWAYS. It will look like a lie if G goes.
This I also know from personal experience.
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I agree with what Nams said. I was lucky. My wife came home not wanting to be married but grudgingly willing to see if we could work things out. Her actions bore that out.
Oh yeah. shoot. don't worry about her words, look at her actions. Yeah. That's right. Silly me.
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U.S. pounds as in weight. Perhaps it would be more understandable if we ask what you pay BigK (in U.S. dollar equivilent) for a typical one serving box of licorie. How much does the box weigh?
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OK 1 kilogram (kg)= 2.20462 pounds (advp) (lb) = 2.679209 pound (troy)
1.8 kg costs $19.50 AUD
You can do the conversions yourselves.
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