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larousse #1693958 10/14/06 05:28 PM
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I have three brothers, one 46, the more handsome actually, he and I are the two brownies of the siblings, the pretiest if I may say so. Hahahaha.

We are three women and three men, I'm the 5th. My older brother is divorced. All the others married. I'm the black sheep or the lost sheep. Lol. Ouch that used to be funny, now it's painful.

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Have a great night Nam. You are so blessed with your sons.

If you ever come across with Mexican wine from the brands, Domecq, Santo Tomas or Monte Xanic, give it a try.

Baja California had miners from France at the end of the XIX and begining of XX centuries. They had vineries. When the big filoxilia hit Europe, some of the grapes that recovered the 'grappes types' came from Baja California. They came from all America, I mean, Argentina, Chile... Mexico and I guess California too.

Baja California gave Tempranillo, a very nice wine, not to young not too old, not to fruty either. Domecq has a mix of Merlot and Cabernet, like a Borgoña. It's a dream, you can feel both bouquets on your mouth like in waves. That Domecq is called Chatau I think and here you can get it for 200 pesos, like 20 dls.

Baja California has an important area of vineries called Valle de Guadalupe, like two hours to the South of Tijuana, towards the desert.

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Is it 'me' time or what?

Where is the love people?

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Most exported Chilenian wines are too young but there's one that's a dream, Carmenera, if you find it, try it.

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larousse #1693962 10/14/06 07:02 PM
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Hi larousse, are you still here?

Yes, I'm blessed with my boys. They have their moments, like any kids do but they are all sweet, kind & with good hearts.

Gee, a brother 46, a litle on the young side but, hey, if he's local we might as well met for a coffee. I'll take a guess that your "pretty" (doubt he'd want to be called that BTW) brother lives in Mexico.

I'll write down your wine suggestions, I'm always looking for something interesting though I do tend to be cheap. I really like Spanish wines, Rioja in particular. Lan is one of my favorites. There are a few good tempranillos also but I'm not nearly as familiar with names & types as you are.


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nams #1693963 10/14/06 07:14 PM
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So, your BF is having some difficulties at the moment? Is it the dear? Did they start eating his pets?

Kiwi, the man up my sleeve was the same man who didn't want to marry again. After our date I emailed him to thank him for the nice time etc., he emailed back saying he had a "great" time. He left for Italy a few days later & is certainly back by now but I haven't heard from him. It's probably for the best that we don't get involed, even if he were so inclined, but it appears he's not.

Right now I'm not motivated to go on match.com & look. I don't really know why. My time is up soon so I'll just ride it out then take a break from online dating. I've had many dates but nobody I'd want to keep seeing. Some I would have had a second date with just to see if there was any interest, some I did have second dates with but we weren't a good fit.

I've been contacted by a couple guys recently but I'm not interested.


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nams #1693964 10/14/06 07:26 PM
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Hi Pio,

It doesn't sound like there's anything wrong with you. Your reactions to your WW & your indifference seem appropriate. While it can't hurt too much (unless you get a quack) to see an IC it doesn't sound like your reactions are out of the norm. It sounds like you've accurately summed up the situation.

I can see why it might bother your to feel indifferent but isn't that what happens when your LB is empty? Your WW hasn't exactly provided motivation for you to do any more work on behalf of the M.

To threaten you on top of that is likely fear talking on her part.

Sticking it out until Christmas? Wow, I can't imagine how you'll last that long. Once we'd told our boys we were Ding, by far the hardest part of the whole mess & what I considered the emotional bottom, I couldn't wait to be away from ex. There was immediate relief when he left.


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nams #1693965 10/14/06 07:27 PM
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BF says deers are mobing him. They cross in front of him on the road and stare at him. Lol. They are angry about the lack of corn in his yard, they were so happy to had found a corn source. Oh well, it's Nams and Pio's fault.

His Jeep car cloutch broke, it had to be towed. Then the mechanic told him the car needed new brakes. Then one tire of the rental car lost air. So he's a little irritated right now.

Nams, I wouldn't introduce you to my brother, he can be quite charming but he's a womaniser. His teen years were a revolving door of new girlfriends. I was good friend with some of them.

The most comic situations have happened when his ex wife would said in front of us, the family, that he had such a good heart. We would told her that she didn't know him. Even after he had left her without child support for four kids she would defend him. Oh well.

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Depress your mouse button and drag it over the text you wish to copy. It should highlight it.


Talk to your mouse button about the affair and the effect it has had on your family. That should depress it sufficiently.

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Yeah, a womanizer doesn't hold any appeal for me. That coupled with the fact he left his wife without child support...well...no amount of charm can make up for that.

Does your BF have children larousse?


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larousse #1693968 10/14/06 07:41 PM
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Pio,

I have been thinking, I know I shouldn't, I know.
I was wrong. When you said you needed G help to overcome the affair I told you it was something inside you what was going to help you to get over it.

I was wrong. After listening the MB radio program and reading some more I think I understood what you meant. No matter how hard you work on yourself if she doesn't implement protective mesures as the Radical Honesty and doesn't show remorse and consciusnees about the severity of what she did, you can't move to the recovery phase. That's why Dr. Harley speaks of a 'compensation' from the XWW or XWS to help the BS to heal from the affair wounds.

I think it's a big step that you consider IC.

I have the impression that you need to tell G what do you need from her, precisely. Remorse, honesty, accountability, emotional openess, apreciation for your domestic support like trimming the garden, consideration to your time together as a couple...

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Whose idea was it to wait until Christmas?


That was my idea. It's already October so she would be here for the holidays. Last night I told her I was really upset about her comment of getting me fired. I told her she was pure evil. I asked what it would take me to be rid of her forever. She says she doesn't want to go. I asked her why I don't get a choice. She insists on getting everything she wants. She is the most selfish person I have ever known. My only crime was loving her with all my heart and it wasn't enough. I told her she doesn't make me happy. Nothing she does makes me happy. People shouldn't have to live like this. She says she wants a chance to prove herself.

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He has a boy, man of 24 and a girl of 18 years old.

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I was wrong.


I get that a lot lately.

Actually I told her that nobody had ever hurt me like she had and I wanted to protect myself so that nobody ever would again. I told her I did not trust her and she finds it far too easy to lie. She is incapable of telling the truth and I can't live with someone like that. I reiterated that it was the lies that were so devastating. Did I mention that I told her I hated her?

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HiPio, sounds like things are starting to heat up between you & G. Not in a good way.

She says she wants to stay & wants a chance to prove herself, does she know what you would require from her to want her to stay?


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piojitos #1693973 10/14/06 07:51 PM
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She says she wants a chance to prove herself


[color:"green"] That is not that bad, is it? [/color]

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larousse, how many years age difference between you two, if you don't mind me asking.


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13 years

I'm 39, he's 52 years old.

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Pio,

er, could you call, legally, from your work to US? Would you consider talking to the Harley's? It seems both of you are stuck.

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Don't be too rough on yourself Pio.

ex said to me at one point before he decided to give it a year for him to fall back in love with me, also known as fake recovery or the Who is My Soul Mate game, that he'd thought of driving his car into a tree, that it would make the whole thing less painfull. I said yeah, you're right it would. I meant it too.

Of course you hate G. She has done the worst thing a person who swore to love you can. On top of that she has shown no remorse, shows no indication she cares to work on the marriage, no effort to understand the devestation she's caused, etc. What's to love?


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