Hi Luna,

Well it sounds like you had quite a trip. I am so glad that you made it home safely. Your car troubles were probably the last thing you needed but I bet it did your dad good to be able to rescue you. I am sure it would have given him a boost to think he could still manage to help his daughter and was needed and capable of fixing problems.

That is great he has a home nurse coming to him daily. If you wish I will check what was used on my wound for you, but your RN no doubt has it well under control.
I wish your dad well Luna, just remember how many success stories there are these days.

I know nothing about cars except how to curse them if they will not start, so you are not on your own there.
My parents are no longer with me but they too would be so disappointed in the excuse for a man that my husband has turned out to be.

Luna, I am trying to brew anger at the moment. I just feel numb most of the time. It's a horrid feeling but every now and then I feel a twinge of anger stir.

Glad you are home safe and sound.

Beth.

Hi stph20...thanks.

I am happy to be back 'chez moi'

I am VERY proud of you....uhmmmm....particularly considering your age.....which 'I' would rather not even discuss!

Since you have a WS on your hands, PLAN A, and added responsibilities at work....you really need to do things for
YOU... and keep your Taker satisfied.... which in turn will help to NOT expect anything from a WS...

Are you doing any physical activities? (..no...I am not talking about THAT!...remember BigK's orders...more like bicycling, walking, going to the Y.... anything that will get you some fresh air and oxygen in your lungs!)

I know there is a 'discussion' going about exit affairs... let me know if ever you are curious about Romantic Affairs.....or more to the point, the effects on a family of Romantic Affairs..... that's when a WS finds THE 'soulmate' of their lives...... and cannot figure how they have lived so far without it!

...although for the record...this BS was the only one WS chose to marry AND have children with..... when up until meeting 'ME', WS SWORE he would never marry and have children!

Where's PEP....need your 'what are we?...chopped liver' sign....

OH!...

I know....what's up with 2much? Don't remember seeing a post from her in my last 'catch up' marathon!

2much???

Todd..... don't think it was a good idea advising 2much on the best cognac available..... I am holding you TOTALLY responsible if anything happens to 2much as a result of your advice..... BTW was the name again?.... it must be AWFULLY good considering how much you love the French..LOL!

Alright....I have a confession to make....

Please try to control yourselves...

I have read your posts about Larousse's plumber intervention......

HERE IT GOES: I am here on this thread 'killing time' while I am waiting for the plumber's visit to fix my furnace.....

OK....it's out there....(...and I know I will regret this....but this thread is all about honesty.....RIGHT?)

...and I expect it to cost me an arm and a leg.....Todd??? are you listening?.....LOLROF!

(LOLROF = Laughing Out Loud and Rolling On the Floor)

Well....I see that nobody's around....

Just in case some may wonder...why I would need a plumber for the furnace....and not an electrician.....

it's because my furnace runs on gaz.....and therefore needs a 'specialized' professional that is both a plumber and electrician...but mostly....plumber....

...and ever since I learned that if one's furnace is fueled by gaz.... one is literally seating on a bomb.....I thought it best to invest my money on 'high maintenance' of it..... since my knowledge of furnaces and of plumming (sp???..plumbering....???) is right up there with my knowledge of cars.....(didn't know until yesterday how important it was to know whether or not your car is front or rear-wheel drive... WELL.... apparently.... it makes a BIG difference for the towing truck....and from where it will pick it up....front or back! .....so there!)

People....particularly the guys...keep in mind that there are ladies present here....and that this is not in a men's locker room!

OK....still by myself!

So....maybe this would be a good time to ask some of you 'smartie pants' about some of the technical options.... I have graduated from the 'cut and paste' and 'quoting' course.....

When my message is in the 'edit some more' box......

Post Icon are used.....when???

Instant Graemlins are used....when??

Font Color (Larousse, are you there?): do I choose them before I type the text...or do I highlight text then choose the color.....

Now....I know a few of the Instant UBB Code 'things' like QUOTE..BOLD...ITALICS....... but am not quite prepared to go the 'advanced' stage of the others left....

Now....if I post and nobody else is there..... I will respect Todd's domaine of English song lyrics and poems...

...and will have no other option but to post my favourite Italian song lyrics....

...and...as I tell my boys... this is not a threat....as I am a woman who honours her WORD....as Stephen Colbert might say!

Well...I just googled one of my 'old' favourites....MINA.....

and look what I found?......



Now I adore her even more!.....and yes....she sings in English....some of you might not remember my other favourite artist....LITTLE TONY.....??? see the connection???? it's called the Americanization of Europe's artistic world.... the Italian singers have been particularly vulnerable to it...oh... from way back since I can remember.....uhmmmm......1990s???

This particular song caught my attention...oh...I see....a Frank Sinatra tune.....how romantic...n'est-ce pas?

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FULL MOON AND EMPTY ARMS
(Rachmaninoff / Kaye / Mossman)
Frank Sinatra


Full moon and empty arms
The moon is there for us to share
But where are you?
A night like this
Could weave a memory
And every kiss
Could start a dream for two

^Full moon and empty arms
Tonight I'll use the magic moon
To wish upon
And next full moon
If my one wish comes true
My empty arms will be filled with you

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Hi Luna, nice to see you back. I agree with Beth, your dad would have been so pleased to still be needed and to be able to help you out. Good for you making the trip on your own too.

DD visits the Grand Canyon today and I will be calling her again tonight. When I called their hotel I thought it would be a relief to be speaking to someone in English at last after all the months of calling hotels in Europe and struggling to make myself understood. LOL, my English was better than the person who answered the phone at the hotel.

Good morning to everyone else. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

(Used an instant graemlin for you Luna)

Hi Beth...sorry...just saw your post....that's another thing....cross-posting....just when you thought you were up to date.....and going on as if all alone!

Now...since we SEEM to be all alone (the lurkers don't count!)....I was curious a little bit about your situation..... are you living with a pre-FWS or a WS? (FWS = former wayward spouse, pre-FWS means S has somewhat come to senses and wishes to work on M but with head still somewhat up in the clouds; WS = wayward spouse who wants to cake-eat...wants you and OW =Other Woman and will stop at nothing to get it!)


If I remember correctly.....it would probably be a WS....since the ISSUE of contact with OW has not been cleared up yet....

...which might explain your 'numb' feeling (maybe unlike Pio's right now)....a coping mechanism used when issue of trust is involved?

What kind of help are you getting? ...IC? ...MC? ....are your health issues behind you, or not?

Sorry....you may have answered some of these questions already..... it's the price to pay when part of a very 'anarchiste' thread!

(PS TODD...sorry...my language files get mixed up sometimes!)

Thank you...am I really that young?...lol.


Well, thanks for pointing out all my stresses to me! j/k. I never think about everything I've got going on, I just do it. And stress about WH when I'm at home. Seems to be working for me! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


I know...BigK's orders suck sometimes! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> It's really great excersize, which is really important right now...it burns a ton of calories!

But yes, I do take my dog for walks almost daily. That's really all I have time for with my crazy work schedule!



I'm curious about all types of affairs, if you care to share. I didn't know there were different kinds. I do believe WH is having the exit A, but it would interest me to know the other kinds so I can compare. Thanks!


We haven't heard from 2much for a while...

Howdy TKO family,

Had problems with my server for the past 24-48 hours...

Welcome home Luna!

Hello Nams, Larousse, Beth, BK, KiwiJ.,Todd, Pio, Stph20 and anyone I am absentmindedly missing.

Todd I will be thinking of you tomorrow...

Pio...what is going on in the M world?

Stph...a word of caution...not from anything but
experience ...sounds like you are making headway but...BEWARE of cakeeaters in H clothing...that is all I will say...

Whoever was worried about Todd making cognac recommendations...fear not I have only had 2 small servings since purchasing over a week ago...it is worth savoring...I ration it as I do Godiva chocolates

I am soooooooo dying with the amount of work, the juggling of children and trying to keep up with household chores...can't wait for my academic break next month (6 weeks off which I will probably lose my mind...) I am planning on doing lots of home improvements to get home ready to put on market in spring. Hopefully I will be able to complete my honey-do list...yeah, I'm my own honey, what can I say...I bought myself flowers this week...figure if I wait for anyone else to do the things I like for me I will be waiting till the cows come home...

I'm not going to discuss M or D until I have something positive to report or have reached a milestone...or am about to explode...which ever comes first!

Sorry I can't get into the chemical, travel or glaze discussions...beyond my scope...

Been very emotional on the inside lately but remaining calm and consistent on the outside...

My kids are awesome so no matter what I win:)

I'll check in later, must do the soccer drop and cub scouts...I'm sure when I am trying to get my ton of paperwork done later I will procrastinate by checking in!

Cheerio

It's nice to have you back 2much! We've missed you!

I just got off the phone with OW's BF. If interested, please refer to my thread. I don't like repeating myself,lol!

I will be cautious of WH for a while.

WOW Luna - YOU TOTALLY ROCK!!!!!

(((Luna)))

Nice summar of the situation too BTW. You were pretty good at comprehension at school weren't you?

Stef: I am very proud of you.

Stef - in affairs the only thing that varies (usually) is the degree of emotional attachment. In an exit affair there is low emotional attachement. In a romantic affair/soul mate affair there is a high level of emotional attachment. Romantic affairs are FAR more dangerous to the possibility of recovery to the marriage than exit affairs.

This "affairs continuim" is explained very well in "Surviving and Affair" I hope you have read that?

Hi Luna,

Welcome back. You came back about as subtle as the north wind laying waste to a frozen corpse, lol.

Hope your Dad continues to improve.

And, you charged more up than your car battery didn't you? You sound fit to be tied. Hey, wait, didn't mean it that way....



The only reason I mentioned by love of cognac is because you were not here. Alas, somehow, you read all the back posts. It is the one French product I allow myself. No more tires or yogurt for me.

As for the Easy Bake oven, it is NOT a toy. I made some mods today. I removed the extra lightbulb. I baked a cake this morning and yes, this time I poured the mix from the box directly into the pan. The finished cake was a little "Pittsburg" like the steak? Burnt on the outside and gooey on the inside. Not bad, but not that good. So I removed the second light bulb and replaced the 200 watt bulb with a 125 watt bulb. Perfecto! The frosting still got very liquidily and ran all over the place. So, again, I called P&G. It turns out you are not supposed to cook the frosting with the cake mix. Men! Why don't they publish a cook book just for us? We are such helpless chaps, you know.

Anyway, my cognac advice to 2much was a reply to her request. You know the old saying: you can lead a horse to water but you cannot draw blood out of a turnip. There, I think that adequately explains my position.

And yes, psyching myself up for tomorrow's MRI. I hate MRI's. When this mess is over, I will personally hunt down the man who designed the MRI and.....well.....take out my frustration on him.

oui, il est.

Yes, Frank was the best. Amazing voice and delivery and unmatched phrasing.

Todd, Good luck tomorrow.

BigK, yes I read the book.

Everyone, I need serious help in my thread tonight.

Stef - You need to calm down. I asked ML to check in on you.

Hi again Lunamare and everyone.

Thanks for asking me questions Luna it makes me reply! Guess I am as bad as a child sometimes and have to be cornered.

Reading the abbreviations my H is a WS but I find the terminology way too polite. Can I come up with some of my own?

My Doctors in their wisdom will not declare me cured, they prefer to remain "careful" in their prognosis. But I have decided I am cured, it is the only way to "live". I don't have my old energy back yet but I feel good. Thank you for asking.

I met with my PI again last Friday and he had some wonderful photographs for me to view all in fine sequential order. My H leaving his office, my H crossing the border, my H entering her home, my H exiting 2 hours later and the fond farewell on the doorstep. I was thinking of having that one enlarged for his desk, it can sit there beside our family portrait.

On Saturday my H and I had quite an amicable discussion. I guess I have had time now to recover from the initial shock. He informs me that he does love me and this is some strange phase he has been going through, perhaps midlife crisis? I find that a very handy excuse. Oh yes, I forgot it could also be because he did not sew enough wild oats when he was young, I nearly forgot that one. Plus, of course I was not "there"for him when I was ill.

Have I mentioned he is a lawyer? Arguments are his forte and he likes to win, he can talk in circles like no other. He will not admit to exactly when the A started, he of course doesn't want to incriminate himself unnecessarily. He also mentioned he feels responsible for the OW now and cannot desert her financially.

He really does believe I think, that I should just accept this happened. We have three wonderful sons, a great life, social acceptance, he has high aspirations etc. etc. Why would I rock the boat over this?

Have I mentioned that the love of my life has turned into a pompous, self gratifying [censored] of a man?
When did social acceptance become important to him? I thought we wanted to save the world.
I really do not know this man or did I just have my eyes closed to what I consider is his deterioration?

To be honest if it wasn't for our sons I would long gone.

I'm sorry, there is so much to our/his mess and I have to run to collect the youngest from school now. I will not be back until late tonight as today is my support group and I have to close up one of the stores too.

Just in case I don't get back here again today, good luck tomorrow Todd.

I guess the vent has started. Why don't I feel better? Beth.

((((Beth))))