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Hi everyone and bye everyone,

I'm off to Vegas! My goodness I am so excited now I have made the decision to go. It will be so nice to be away from this environment and H for a few days. Perhaps I will be able to think clearly away from home. I am going with my best friends so it will be so much fun. I have been very busy making arrangements for the boys etc. and I still have to pack so I haven't got long.

Piojitos you sound like another MB success story in the making. I am so happy for you.

Steph. stay strong.

Todd you are in my prayers.

Thank you all for the hugs and I will answer any questions next week.

I just wanted to say bye rather than disappear.

Best wishes to you all. Beth

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ohhhhhhhh Have Fun Beth. And Plan a trip to Vegas for Mid March next year as well!!


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Beth,

If you have never seen Danny Ganz perform, do yourself a favor and go see his show. He is absolutely incredible. He is a singing impressionist and plays at the Mirage. You too BigK when you go.

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I've just talked to DD (who is in Vegas as you may recall).

They've seen the grand canyon but she was more interested in telling me about the new handbag she bought yesterday.

She said, the Americans love shopping, I love shopping, I fit right in here.

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In an exit affair there is low emotional attachement. In a romantic affair/soul mate affair there is a high level of emotional attachment. Romantic affairs are FAR more dangerous to the possibility of recovery to the marriage than exit affairs.
BigK, I always thought an exit affair is one where the WS plans/thinks of divorcing and/or leaving the BS for the OP and therefore an A with the highest level of emotional attachment, but it seems I had it all wrong… What is an exit A exactly?

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(((((Todd)))))
(((((Pio)))))

Pio, as you say the proof is to come. I think your feelings towards G are perfectly normal. After the crisis & trama you're in a position to really think about how much this has hurt you & if you can & want to forgive & work for the M. As you said you loved her once & you think you can again. Very positive. Now it's her turn to step up to the plate & win you back. I hope she does & your heart is open to it.


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I told her when she left for Mexico that, before she came back, she had to read a book that I gave her as she was leaving. FWIW she told me that while she was reading LNPDA (the Spanlish language version of TRLT), she had an epiphany (i.e. light bulb moment). Something snapped inside her - she said. Maybe that was $50 well invested on my part and effort above and beyond on the part of my sister. Something she read made her see things very differently.

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Hello Gang,

Got done with the MRI a little while ago. Waiting now to hear from doc. Hopefully today but could be tomorrow. Cross your fingers.

I also had the mammorgram and yes, gave up my training bra for the good of science. Man, they smash those girls flat. Last time I'll fall for that trick. Put me back in the MRI coffin, I mean chamber, any day.

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the Greek neighbour cleaned the battery 'heads'


What are battery heads?


Now...Pio....you noticed I put 'heads' in quotes because I am preeetty sure that's not what they are called.... the thingamejing where you put the red and black big clips that should never touch....actually...they would be neat as Christmas decoration special effects...full of sparkles!

...and how are things with you?

...just read your post....sounds like you have a willing WS....have you ever considered talking to or have talked to Steve? ...I think he could be really helpful to set up a 'plan of action' with the two of you.

G. is asking you to give her a chance...I know you have been and are hurting a lot....and I guess it's your decision whether or not you are prepared to take the risk of being hurt again....but since you now know that you CAN survive the hurt....it might be worth the shot....the possibility of breaking up the family still remains an option... I would encourage you to see if G. can turn her talk into actions....and remember...she will need help....which is why I am suggesting a chat with monsieur Steve....


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Luna - How did saying that make your day?


BigK....that's just it...it didn't...LOL! Something definitely gets lost by not 'seeing' me when I speak...LOL!

My WS is in a Romantic Affair...are the dots close enough now...LOL!

Bye...Beth.


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hi everyone!

I'm soooooooo excited for you guys...Beth is going to Vegas, Pio is on the R road, Todd got to have a 2fer (check with Pio, I recommended a pap for him in the past he may think it wise for you to have one as well).

Pio it sounds like it is all falling into place, she is speaking in fog-free mode now lets see if she performs...I really think she will...I am overwhelmingly happy for you and just a smidge jealous

Todd I must say you sound like you did well getting out of the torture chamber...hang in there during the wait (always the worst...just like A limbo...) keep busy and stay away from the Remy...post lyrics if you have to or get some sleep for me and you both...I'm beat

All TKO family have a great day...I am booked to the busting point and doubt I'll have time to get back till way late...BBFN

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Keeping everything crossed for you Todd.

Pio, don't be one of those BS's who are the worst threat to the marriage.

What G is saying and doing is HUGE.

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An exit affair is when a partner decides to have an affair - could be with ANYONE - in the hopes that when discovered their partner will disolve the marriage - ie it can be anyone, they want the affair to be discovered and believe it will end the marriage - therefore low level of emotional commitment. Stef's H seems to have had an exit affair.


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Friends, I just got off the phone with two of my docs.

There is an approximately 20% reduction in tumor size!

I cannot tell you how ecstatic I am. I cannot reach DS1 and DS2, out of office with their jobs; I did talk to DS3. He was obviously ecstatic and then started cying saying he didn't want me to die. That is the hardest part of this crap. So, now he has me crying.

Anway, just wanted to share the great news.

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Hey there Kiwi! I'm glad to hear your DD is doing well. How funny, "Americans love to shop"! For some reason that made me chuckle.

Pio, I agree with Kiwi.

G has expressed remorse, she has said she will do what you need her to do so you can hopefully find love & trust for her again. Don't make her beg & squirm even though I can see how it might be satisfying when thinking of the worst of times.

This weekend I'll be putting in a glaze fire which will include all my new glazes. I'm always SO hopeful when I open the kiln, looking for some spectacular result. Do I understand you correctly Pio when you say rutile will make a glaze reflective? Does that mean glossy, shinny? If I add rutile to a matt glaze would you expect to see areas of gloss within the matt surface?

Todd, I'm happy your MRI is over. You sound like your thinking positively & that's got to be good for you. How's your NC going? Have you decided to write a plan B letter or move toward D? How did your talk with your DS3 go? EEK! Am I nosey or what?


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That's wonderful news Todd! I'm thrilled for you! You must celebrate with the mariachis! YIPEE!!!!

Do feel an improvement?

Forget my other questions. Just take the time to feel good. you certainly deverve it. Your DS3 sounds as sensitive as my third son, he gets upset if I ask if I can get rid of some childhood toy he hasn't looked at in years


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Wipe away your tears & grab up DS3 & take him with you to the mariachis!!


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WOW Todd!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome. WHat happens next? More radiation? What?

Great news. We don't want you to die either!!


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[color:"blue"] Todd,
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Great news !!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Just what I would have expected from Superman.

It sounds so promising.
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Pio,
it seems things are giving a turn for you too.
You have worked so hard for your marriage.


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Luna:

To post with colors just select the color with the left buttom and write betwee the brackets. I'm glad you came back safely and strong.

Nam,
I guess XBF pretty story is now smoke. A risk with artist you know.

Anyway...

Kiwi,

I hope your daughter doesnt bet too much or she'll have to stay in Sin City II.

Stph,

You are doing so well, keep the focus.

2Much,

how do you manage just to drink a little bit of Remy at a time? I couldn't past the first week.
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Kisses, hugs and pats, acordingly.

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Larousse - I hope ex BF isn't your problem. Hugs.


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