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lunamare #1694518 10/25/06 04:51 AM
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lunamare,

At least you could give 2regret the really good cyberhugs. You know the {{{}}}. I mean, you have to use the "shift" key anyway.

I was wondering if the [ might be used like a pat on the rear - like in sports. Sort of "[[ToddAC good shot!"?

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ToddAC,

Hey, you are good. You knew what would bring me out of my hole with my tail wagging instead of slinking in quietly with my tail between my legs.

No way I am sick of any of you. It was certainly nothing that any of you that post to me did. You have been far more welcoming than I imagined. I already love you all.

Yes, I did get an email telling me that I had caused a problem for a poster with my comments.

I gave my word I would not divulge the senders name and I will not. It was someone that cares about you all very much but I certainly have not meant to cause anyone pain and hated to think that I did.

Plus, I was looking at this site as being a support for marriage as Pio suggested and I guess I don't have one anymore.

I haven't been able to sleep tonight but now I will try again.

Thanks Todd.

Beth

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Hi Beth,

Honestly, if the criteria for being a part of TKO, or MB for that matter, meant that one has to have a marriage, well this place would be a ghost town of sorts.

We are the ugly aftermath, the afterbirth, of infidelity. We hobble together and pick each other up and allow ourselves to be picked up as needed. We are a community of caring folks who have been through a similar experience. I mean, heck, if you cannot find peace and acceptance here, where can you?

Anyway, welcome back. You did indicate that you are back, right?

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I gave my word I would not divulge the senders name and I will not. It was someone that cares about you all very much but I certainly have not meant to cause anyone pain and hated to think that I did.


Beth....if we can 'survive' an A...I think we can handle any comments you might make...and let you know!

...I would actually would like to have a word or two with whoever wrote to you...'anonymously':

Dear 'anonymous',

please allow us the CHOICE to reply to any comments made here, if we feel the need to. I do not consider it 'caring' about anybody by going behind 'one's back...anonymously' and asking any MB poster to give up the right to be part of this thread if they want to be...but more importantly...you DO have the right to stop posting if anything said here offends you.

GGRRRRR!...I knew there was something FISHY about your post, Beth!

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Plus, I was looking at this site as being a support for marriage as Pio suggested and I guess I don't have one anymore.


Beth?....have you ever read my signature line? Have had no direct contact with WS for over a year now! There would not be much of a board if that was the prerequisite! Again, I think Pio said it best....

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This site isn't only about marriage building - it is just very inappropriately named. Don't leave. You may need friends through the pain/learning/pain/growing/pain process. Did I mention pain?


Beth...you will NEED a lot of support if you are taking the step you are taking...the rollercoaster ride has not ended, believe me.... and more importantly, please know that we WANT to be there for you...regardless of whatever whoever said to you, OK?


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Ahh, feel the love for Beth, come on now everyone, GROUP HUG! Pony up the goods one now {{{{Beth}}}}

Absolutely stay Beth we value you input, your gentle voice & your outrage at your H when you voice it.

Perhaps the anonymous poster meant well but you're hearing from the TKO posters they were wrong.

If I can come to an infidelity thread & feel welcome here as a divorced person not 100% sure infidelity played apart in the demise of my marriage, you most certainly belong. No embarrassment either.

We all come here for our own reasons but comfort & understanding are a couple. I hope you get that here because you do provide that for others.


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...comfort & understanding are a couple


Not anymore. I just heard that they broke up.

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Oh Todd, you're a goose!

Hi! How are you?


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nams #1694525 10/25/06 08:32 AM
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Hi Nams,

I'm a goose? I had better hide on Christmas! Don't want an apple stuffed in my mouth...

I am doing okay. No sleep last night. Not sure why but here I am. I sure wish they would fix whatever is wrong with the MB website. It is so s-l-o-w.

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I know, the slowness drives me crazy. I'm guessing lots of others too since TKO has been so practically uninhabited lately.

Losing teeth! Wow Todd that sounds so extreme. Is it or that one of the expected side effects of your treatment?

Right now I'm home going through my pottery books picking out appropriate information for the kids I'll be working with today. One thing I know is I have to keep their hands off the materials for a while otherwise they will dive in with a vengence & the clay will be gone in a heartbeat. I'm trying to come up with something to present so as to stave them off yet not make them so bored they go running.


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My oldest would say there some kind of conspiracy to the slowness here. He wouldn't be able to come up with a reason for the conspiracy just that's it's likely to be one. I hope he get over this kind of thinking fast.


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nams #1694528 10/25/06 09:11 AM
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Hi Pio,

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You know the {{{}}}. I mean, you have to use the "shift" key anyway.


You are going to LOVE my explanation... my keyboard is set to French ....so I would have to dig the {{{}}} (using copy and paste right now) in options/special characters....or switch my keyboard back and forth from English.....

I do find the ((((((PIO)))))) somewhat minimalist and to the point, given the clean lines, and the {{{}}} have a more gothicky uncertain look.

The softness or strength of the cyberhug can easily be communicated by the number.

(((PIO)))

(((((((((((((((((((((((((PIO)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

See?

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comfort & understanding are a couple.


Waiting for the other shoe to drop...

...and....Todd is the winner!

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Oh Todd, you're a goose!

I personally am not seeing the 'link'...Nams, please enlighten me if there is any 'symbolic' meaning to Todd being a goose, thank you very much, in advance!

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Hi Nams,

The teeth which broke off were as the result of the tumor depressing my hormone levels. My doc is also concerned about my spine, whatever you call it when you get something wrong with your spine. Fortunately, the structure of the teeth is still there so they can be capped. Two will have to be built-up and one will need a root canal. Grand total of $10,000. I should have been a dentist.

How are your glazes? Have you ever tried clay from Old Hickory?

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I'm gonna up you all and give Beth and 2Much some squidges.

So squidges ya'll.

BTW: I can't remember who wrote the lovely...very visually appetizing bit about the tripe...Tripas is tripe here. BLECH. They make it into something equally vile called Menudo (not a band...which...yeah...was pretty vile). The old wives tale is that it is good for a hangover. My take is that I'd rather die from my hangover, thank you very much.

My left rear tire is more appetizing than menudo.

Don't get me started on ojo.

BTW: Sausage and cheese kolaches for breakfast...Todd...you wanna kolache?

Mornin' nit et al!


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So you want to talk glazes Todd? Maybe we should do that late at night so you'll be able to fall asleep. I imagine it's as exciting to a non-potter or non-chemistry lover as how a yarn knits. You're sweet to ask.

No, I've not tried clay from Old Hickory. Does it have some special claim to fame? If they have a truly black clay I'd love to try it. For the most part I use Laguna clays. I have two I work with, one very close to white, glazes look very nice on this one, the other tan with small manganese specks. Sometimes I like a red clay for a more rustic look. You sleepy yet?

Gotta go impart pottery wisdom to the little ones. Wish me luck!


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OK, I may be a little late, but I'm going to chime in anyway.

Beth, DO NOT LEAVE TKO. Whoever sent you the email was a very selfish person to think that your posts are upsetting. This thread is not all about roses and peaches. It's to vent and get advice on the he11 that has become our reality. Trust me, if anything you say upsets anyone here we're sure to let you know and we have the ability to kick you off this thread ourselves (anyone remember fraidycat?).

I can't think of a single thing you've written that would have upset anybody here. You've been supportive to everyone here and kind and caring to boot. And we're all here to vent our frustrations and anger about our situations. If this was just a site/forum for marriages, nobody would be here...hardly any of us have marriages right now. Anyway, my point is, if something you have said offends any of us, we'll let you know. Until then, keep posting, you're going to need our support more than you know. Trust me on this.

{{{{{{{{{Beth}}}}}}}}}


BigK, I didn't mean to ignore you, I posted real quick and had to go to bed. I would have loved to talk to you. Apparently I need to change my sleeping habits...I miss all the drama overnight!


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Hi All,
Todd, what you said to Beth made me cry. Acceptance does that to you. [Todd]!

what about these?
feijoada
tapioca
ensopado
moqueca
tucupi

What would you eat from the above? (tip: they are all good...)

Pio,
I agree with some people. your love bank is low and you need to tell G how to deposit (dates, attention). Good luck!

I've been away also (North Carolina) and I've been reading the latest posts today. My heart goes to everyone that is having a difficult time. I guess we all ((((TKO)))))


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Hi Estrela,

Hope you are doing well.

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Todd, what you said to Beth made me cry. Acceptance does that to you. [Todd]!

I am sorry, didn't mean to make you cry. Hey wait, those are the lyrics to a song. Hmm.....

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what about these?
feijoada
tapioca
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moqueca
tucupi

What would you eat from the above? (tip: they are all good...)

All of the foods on your list sound great. Still accepting care packages BTW. JK

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Hey Stef - Yes please change your sleeping habbits and stop switching threads and we will be fine <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Beth - Glad you decided to come back.

Morning to everyone else. Sorry for starting the Tripe discussion Kimmy. I don't think there is any more vile food than Tripe and I use the term food very broadly here.


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Okay, slow enough to post lyrics. Jackson Browne's "Here Come Those Tears Again".

Here come those tears again
Just when I was getting over you
Just when I was going to make it through
Another night without missing you
Thinking I might just be strong enough after all
When I hear your footsteps echoing in the hall

Baby here we stand again
Like weve been so many times before
Even though you looked so sure
As I was watching you walking out my door
But you always walk back in like you did today
Acting like you never even went away

Well I dont know if I can
Open up and let you in baby
Here come those tears
Here come those tears again

I can hear you telling me
How you needed to be free
And you had some things to work out alone
Now youre standing here telling me
How you have grown

Here come those tears again
Now youll tell me how to hold them in
Here come those tears
Here come those tears again

Some other time baby
When Im strong and feeling fine maybe
When I can look at you without crying
You might look like a friend of mine
But I dont know if I can
Open up enough to let you in
Here come those tears
Here come those tears again
Just walk away
Im going back inside and turning out those light
And Ill be in the dark but youll be out of sight

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Hi all!

Todd, just wondering if the Tooth Fairy visited for those there teeth you lost???? I bet she brought MM...

(((((((Beth)))))))) sorry you are where you are but sounds like you have made a tough decision and can start moving in a set direction. Glad you are back.

Todd, can you quit posting lyrics? You are killing me...I am an emotional nightmare these past 72hr and you go and post the tears lyrics...what's a BS supposed to do? I'm hitting the RM tonight...just one serving but it's been that kinda day!

Technical Q: I have no earthly idea what WH spends his paycheck on...getting notices on his personal bills that they are overdue...same was happening with the household bills so I took over paying them (even though it has been with my $ all along he was the one sending the payments).

It is infuriating me wondering what exactly his $ is going to...of course OW but I want details on exactly what things etc. Do I just wait until lawyer gets copies of all bills or can a PI get detailed summaries of what items credit cards are being used on??? I hate to waste $ that I don't have just to satisfy my curiousity but I am allowing this to make me mental!

What is the best spyware for a computer that has lots of antispyware devices??? I am now gathering evidence in case there is any custody issues down the line. I have plenty of cutie nicey cards, notes etc but all are OW to WH. I have no evidence of anything except phone #s on cell bill for WH. If I could get text message contents I think I would be all set. I could always set up focus group interviews with all the OWs!!!

I had the greatest idea the other day...WH bday coming up...I think it would be great if I invited all the OWs to a surprise party for WH but they wouldn't know who was invited...could have exclusively for OWs which would be 10-12 I think...music would be all the love song CD's and then once WH arrived he could be roasted by all the OWs after I gave them a little run down on why they were all there since they should all get to know each other b/c of their common bond!!!! Whadda ya think?

Ok, so I have a little anger thing going on these days but good news is I haven't acted on it...yet...it's a pressure cooking though...

I have a job if I want it 700+ mi away...it sounds fantastic and the timing is perfect for my assignment end here. I wouldn't get sent away for any long period, only episodic 2-3 day travel. Excellent hours and would give me lots of quality time for the kids. I was told it would be the parfect job for a single parent. I am seriously considering it and looking into homes etc in that area.

I am dreading this transition period...I just want to get things handled and move on...too bad life isn't like that Huh?

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