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Hi everyone,

Just wanted to let you know BigK that the wine cask was actually invented in Geelong, Victoria, Australia. Now how is that for trivia? Sorry, can't remember the wine maker that invented it though. Something like Anglob (?)

How do I know that? When we were first married life was tough. H was in law school and I was the bread winner of the family. Cask wine was a treat and I think instead of listing the ingredients which were probably suspect they noted the history instead.

Ahhh the good old days.... Now, I'm sad again.
I'll tell you about dinner tomorrow after I digest the evening!

Goodnight all. Beth.

Hi stph20,

Can't say that mine is as calculated....I seem to recall that there was a hit song playing that included the word 'luna' when I first signed up....which means 'moon' in Italian... and I like the vision of the extended horizon of the sea.....which is 'mare' in Italian.....and I guess must have thought it would be a good combination.... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

...but I gotta tell you, when I signed up, I was a real mess....WS is involved in a romantic affair... they are tough! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Based on what WS told me (which as you know, is not necessarily a good source)....my theory is that WS, very young, had an idealistic vision of what 'love' would be (as many of us may have had!)....effortless... continual passion ....finding soulmate.... that, in combination with probably MLC, which made him want to relive those first adolescent feelings of love... that, in combination with meeting OW (as I guess this couldn't really be done with someone you have known for over 20 yrs!) who was willing to meet EN....that, in combination with me having a stressful period at work and may have had actually needed HIM to be there for me (and not the other way around)....that, in combination with WS's refusal to make any adjustment for his 'idealistic' and romantic version of love with the 'realities' of family life and where my pragmatic side didn't help...given all that...it's an A waiting to happen! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

....but that is a simplified version...many other issues come into play...

...anyways...after learning about A, and since family life, no matter what, has feet firmly set in 'reality'....it didn't take me long to realize that it would be hard to compete with WS's 'fantasized' version of love with OW....

...I don't know how long the 'illusion' will last....although WS did tell me that he would try his hardest to 'protect' A from reality (supposedly his reason for NOT chosing to live with OW)... regardless, I do expect the 'illusion' one day to meet up with 'reality' and the fall will be hard!

...I know that my PLAN B and my refusal to engage in 'friendly co-parenting' has already put a real 'dent' in it...

...personally I have chosen NOT to make any major decisions until after the 2 yr mark (ie divorce, moving, another R)...and that would be next summer...at which time I will review what direction I want to take.... in the meantime.... except for the lack of SF (...LOL)... which I agree takes some adjusting to after 20 yrs of being married, and the general feelings of 'lonileness' at times, I am trying to enjoy life on my 'own' <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />... it really is not so bad...definitely better than putting up with a WS's behaviour.....ANYTIME! Yeak yeak yeak!

uhmm...sorry people.....I guess I got carried away....

stph20,



I suppose you know that...that is a French word?

Which reminds me...have any of you seen 'Les triplettes de Belleville'... it's an animated film that won an Oscar a few years ago for its musical score, I believe.... very funny if you can catch it! ...don't need to tell you if you do so...to not be surprised and EXPECT French references! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



Todd...thank you for 'enlightening' me on the topic!



Nams....to save you some time...don't look for it around here...Larousse started another thread about it!


You tell them, Nams....

Thank you Beth for proving my point. Boxed (or cask) Wine comes from the pit of he11.

And with a name like Anglob which I have never heard of why am I not surprised....

Hope you are OK Beth.

I obviously owe techie an apology. Turns out he was right after all. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

LOL Pio. hehehehehe

OMG that guy - I have never put anyone on ignore except for him. I did it for his benefit - he's a hurting BS so I really have to make allowances. But man he is dumb.

All,

I have been thinking about radical honesty. Apparently there is a poster or posters secretly trying to influence other posters (e.g. 2regret and larousse). Those trying to protect this wicked person are not being radically honest and are protecting someone unworthy of protection. It is your decision whether to out these people or not but you are not doing anyone any favors. It is just like an affair. Exposure is the only good solution to stop the vile behavior. JMO.

booka,

I have some questions for you. What did you do for your company when you first went to work for them? It is not common to work for the same company for 28+ years. Back when you started working, that was the corporate mentality - job for life. But Reaganomics changed all that. Good for you. I worked for a company once that had that mindset. They were bought by Schlumberger who cleaned house of all the old-timers. Wouldn't let em reach retirement age. I became mercenary when I saw that.

I am curious now what your software does. I don't know that much about the grid and especially how it affects rural coops but the concept of software for it is new to me and very interesting. I would like to know more.

Are you like me and believe that digital computers are a crime against nature? Nothing beats analog.

I agree, Pio... some of my energy is going into 'overanalyzing' posters.... trying to see who the 'secret' poster might be.... not good...creates mistrust and uneasiness.... and not sure why Beth and Larousse are 'protecting' poster either

I, for one, would definitely like to know who it is rather than 'play' the guessing game!

Maybe both Beth and Larousse could at least be open to explain to us their reasons for not willing to 'out' poster... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

...by this, I don't necessarily think it's the same poster...could very well be two different posters....as objective doesn't seem to be the same!

Luna, maybe not two posters but two situations from the same poster?

Well the first step in RH to end the secrets would be that Todd and Pio would admit their disgusting EA.

I appreciate your straight intervention Pio and the interest of the 'family'. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

In my case I'm in the middle of one sided fire from a WW who wants to colect a 'debt' or revenge from a FWW on MB and at the same time seems to have unlimited love for BS's here.

I was at the wrong post at the wrong time, I belong to the wrong ethnic group and some how got in the middle.

Now the story and the several stories along the years don't belong to me. I don't feel free to share them because they involve other people. If they want to speak, they would do it.

What I tried to do with my thread was to say that I refuse to be dragged into the dissemination of rumors and fictions but it seems it didn't work.

Thank y'all for your concern.

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What truck did you just fall off of? ToddAC and I have admitted our EA dozens of times. A simple search would show that. I have confessed a dozen times that he is my soulmate! We have been nothing but honest.

I don't have enough curiosity to care whether you out the poster or not. I simply think the poster doesn't deserve protection. If you don't wish to tell, that's your business and I'll respect that. I have enough lies to sort through on the home front without getting into more intrigue here.

Okay my dirty little secret is out. Yes I'm a drooler. What's worse - my DD1 inherited it from me. Poor girl!

Talk about creative marketing.

This reminds me of the movie Forrest Gump.


"Now, I don't know much about anything, but I think some of American's best young men served in this war. There was Dallas, from Phoenix. Cleveland, he was from Detroit. And Tex was, well, I don't remember where Tex come from."

Because of the nature of our business, this is highly confidential information but here is an organizational chart of my company.

org chart

[color:"blue"] I have always asked the same question. My mom can't remember at what time I was born, if it was an easy or difficult birth and how long it lasted. I have wondered if she just mail ordered me or what. I guess 'what'.

Nam,
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I have been quiet about now real XBF because I was not ready to hear 'I told you so' not from you but more from my inner conscious. The last time he called I asked him not to call me again. I feel like going out of my own fog. I held a torch for us for too long...

He casually found, so he said, one month ago, a very conflictive XGF from 5-6 years ago. When his relationship with her ended he had to go into rehab and when we met he had been clean for two years.
I have had my sad moments and at the same time I feel liberated. I always had to avoid to say comments that could trigger him about his past realtionship or he would doubt of our suitability.
I mean his past relationship with that XGF was the mesure against which our success was messured.

If I ever did something that could remaind him of her, he would say something like 'Oh I don't want this again' or something like that. He took away my right to make mistakes like if they were new and original. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Maybe if things had finished differently I would feel worst... or not. The fact that there's this XGF and his addiction make easier to accept that our relationship is over.

Ok, save the 2x4 until tonight or tomorrow <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
I'm not sure I can get on line this afternoon. I have to leave the appto soon because the building will be fumigated and I prefer not to sleep here tonight.

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I was thinking of buying an automatic dispenser of gum with rings. Every day I could try my chances. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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I appreciate a lot the warm caring y'all have shown me, except Pio of course and I'm sorry if my thread brought incertitude and mistrust. It was not my intention.

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If you buy wine in a bottle or other conteiner, a very safe mesure, if it's not going to be consumed all the same day, is to refrigerate it. I know it's unortodox but very effective or so I'm told. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hi {{{larousse}}},

No 2x4s from me. Sounds to me like your living your life as any reasonable thinking person would. You were willing to get involved with this man despite his need for rehab in his past & that says you have a forgiving nature. That's a good thing.

He's the idiot who could not let go of a former GF & work on a relationship with you. This is not your failing but his. You know, hindsight is a toture devise. It's full of second guessing but the truth is we don't have all the facts until things end. Then we can see more clearly. While in the midst of our relationships we do the best we can & that's what it appears you did.

Hi Larousse...thanks for sharing...one makes choices.... takes risks.... makes mistakes... learns from them.... and moves on... that's life....

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{{{{{{Larousse}}}}}}

Cinders, I was so excited that you'd mentioned a NZ wine that I missed that you said Cab Sav and not Sav Blanc. Yes, Montana Cab Sav is a good wine.

Erk, feels kinda weird talking about wine at 7.00am on a Sunday morning.

Beats talking about electrical currents though. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Pio, FYI