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piojitos #1695178 11/11/06 12:02 AM
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No she didn't but here are some lyrics for Superman.

It's not easy being me

I can't stand to fly
I'm not that naive
I'm just out to find
The better part of me

I'm more than a bird
I'm more than a plane
I'm more than some pretty
face beside a train
It's not easy to be... me

I wish that I could cry
fall upon my knees
find a way to lie
But a ho
I'm misunderstood
Dont be naive
Even heroes have
the right to bleed

I may be disturbed
Of what you can see
Even heroes have
the right to dream
And its not easy to be... me

Unbroken the way away from me
Well its alright
You can all sleep sound tonight
Im not crazy or anything

I cant stand to fly
I'm not that naive
Men weren't meant to ride
With clouds between their knees

I'm only a man
With silly red shoes
Taken for Kryptonite
in this one way street
I'm only a man
with silly red shoes
Looking for special things
Inside of me

Inside of me x4

I'm only a man
with silly red shoes
im only a man
looking for a dream
I'm only a man
with silly red shoes
mmm Its not easy
ooo ooo ooo

Its not easy....
To be.............
Me.........

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Not that I understood anyway.

Larousse?

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Well that explains the horrible red boots but how do you explain Superman fashion faux pas of wearing underweare over his clothes?

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larousse,

You must be drinking tequila again. Hace unos días posteaste que la palanca "Johnson" explicaba la visión de rayos X que tiene Superman. Nadie entiende que querías decir con ese comentario y somos bién curiosos. ¿Qué tiene que ver su visión con la palanca Johnson? Yet now you want to divert us to his reverse dressing policy? I don't think so!

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Hi again everyone,

Well, it took me a fair amount of time but I have finally caught up with all your posts. Reading here certainly takes you on an emotional ride. I have both laughed and cried for the past hour.
Thank you all for being happy for my good news. I certainly got my Christmas blessing early.

Luna,

I wish you a very belated but very happy birthday. I hope you have a wonderful time in SF. It is a beautiful city and I am sure you will love it. Hope you like clam chowder!

Nams,

I know exactly what you mean about shared memories with your H. They are sweet moments with pain attached. Hopefully one day we maybe able to share them without the pain. There is always hope.

Yes Nams, I did get huge hugs from my boys and the four of us had pizza and popcorn and watched Dumb and Dumber to celebrate. I just love listening to my boys laugh at that movie.

2much,

I have utter faith that you will make the right decisons regarding your marriage. I have long admired your strength. We seem to be walking a similiar path at the moment regarding our husbands. I seem to be seeing far more of my H since he left our home and my anger has abated. This weekend I hopefully will have some spare time to find out exactly where on MB I need to post now. I am not in R but am not in plan B either. I truly am not sure where I belong.

Booka,

Be easy on yourself. Try and have some peaceful time to yourself to get your thoughts straight. Don't rush into anything, your emotions will probably be all over the place for quite awhile yet. Your daughter is at a very impressionable age and needs you to be a rock for her but I am sure you know that.

Todd,

Talking of daughters you made me glad that I didn't have one! My father would have been waiting for you with a shotgun.

You must come from good strong stock Todd, your parents must have been so proud of your fighting spirit. I have a friend whom also wore braces in her childhood but it was due to Polio. Like any adversity it certainly is character building but my heart broke for the little boy Todd.

Some of the bravest people I have ever met sat beside me lnked to IV poles having chemo for hours on end. You would not believe the humor and love that filled that room. It will stay with me all my life. I am sure those IV bags also fed us positive thoughts and a great appreciation for life.

I belong to a support group and I would just love to have you come in and be an inspirational speaker! Think about a trip to San Diego - no expenses paid though. lol

Kiwi,

It's so good to hear your daughter has some positive comments regarding America. It must have been wonderful to get her home after so long.

Stph,

You make me feel old. I read your posts and I remember what it is to be young and so eager to devour life. Your H is a very lucky man to have you and I hope he wakes up and realizes that. But Steph, just stand still for a minute and listen to the wonderful advice you get from BigK and the others. I so wish I had of found this site a year ago, I may have ended up in a better place in my M than I am right now.

One thing I can tell you is that since I asked my H to leave we have never seen so much of him. He says he misses me/us terribly and wants to R. I have told him that he would always have a PI as a shadow and that isn't even daunting him (at the moment). Maybe some people have to loose what they have before they can appreciate it? That includes myself.

Larousse I am so sorry the way it turned out with your BF.

BigK - keep up the good work with Stph. How are you?

Pio - How many hamsters did you end up with? How is the R going?

Wow, I wont tell you how long it took me to do this post. I am glad I am starting classes after Christmas. To anyone I missed - Hi !

Hope you all have a great weekend.

Beth

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Stph20,

I saw where you were being told stay with A / got to B and I can see the tug-of-war. I think that happened to me for a while too. I have even been part of your problem even though I said I didn't really want to comment on the timing of your Plan B. I just looked at the length of your Plan A and felt that you could use more "time in the saddle" but I was not really considering WH's actions. Having lived in Plan A while WW broke contact repeatedly I can say that I set myself up for a certain amount of ridicule. In fact this was the cause of my big disagreement with lemonman AFAIK. I had problems with people who so easily called me a doormat. I don't think that SAA says NC is a requirement for Plan A. I haven't found it anyway. Keep in mind that Plan A and R are very different things. Your WH says he wants to R. I say he is a liar and shouldn't be trusted. But that doesn't mean you still can't Plan A. Look back at your posts and see how things have changed to your favor so dramatically in such a very short time.

You may need to Plan B at some point but Plan B should be used to protect you and not as a strategy to manipulate WH. You can't just say that I am going to Plan A for 13 days and 4 hours and then Plan B right before Thanksgiving or Christmas to make him see what it is like to be alone for the holidays. When you go to Plan B, you had better be prepared for the long haul. It might not be that way but you don't know. Plan B is also a leap of faith but it is not nearly as bad as your fear of it.

I stayed in my Plan A way too long. I have lost all feelings for WW. But then I remind myself love isn't just a feeling and keep going. Again, I am not telling you which way to go. Once you have done Plan A for a certain amount of time, more Plan A doesn't buy you anything. You just want to leave WH with a good lasting impression before you go to Plan B. Remember when he told you he saw changes but didn't believe they were real? If he now knows they are real, he can take that with him to Plan B with no problems.

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Good morning Todd,

Because I often work with children & the fact I have three boys, I could easily picture a young, very determined boy working his a.s off trying to do better than the rest. One boy in particular comes to mind. He doesn't have the physical limitations you suffered with but he is a very determined boy. I suspect he has a fairly empty emotional home life & is drawn to adults who seem to have the warmth I suspect his home lacks. He will find any way he can to be with these adults & engage them.

Clearly you have a strong character which has helped you with the marital mess your WW heaped upon you.

Run Todd, run. I mean that in the nicest, most sincere way.

Beth, 2much & stph, I've always found plan B such a difficult thing to want to implement & to find the correct timing. By the time you want the WWS out you've already lost some love for them & the relief one feels from having the head on daily anxiety out of your life feels so good it's hard to find the desire to want to love them again. ex once said to me he thought the formulas (meeting ENs, poja, 15 hours a week together, etc.) presented in MBers seems designed to bring any two people together.

I guess my point is to not want to make the effort for someone who has clearly taken advantage, has hurt you & your family, has been so selfish, on & on, is a natural consequence of their horrible behavior. It takes very strong, determined people to work that hard for someone who has been so undeserving.

I wanted to add that even though I wanted nothing more than to keep my family together & did what I could with a less than ideal situation for recovery, I look back & wonder how I would feel now. Once the fight seemed won could I really love ex, could I ever really trust him, & the biggest factor for me, could I respect him after he did so many things I found ugly.

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For those still awake......


zzzzzz....did I miss something?? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Just kidding Todd...you must know by now that I am easy sell when it comes to the importance of 'attitude'...but you certainly seemed to have had endless challenges in your life to 'test' yours!

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You have gone through a lot of pain and suffering. Just don't lead anyone else down that path too.


Booka....I have the same concerns as Pio....given what you have been saying...if all you're looking for is SF....please be 'upfront' about it!

BTW Pio...how's the heated blanket doing? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

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Did larousse ever explain why Superman needed X-ray vision for the Johnson lever? I've lost sleep over that. I wish it could be cleared up.


While on the topic of Superman....anyone know who taught him how to dress?...underwear on top...geeesh... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

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Well that explains the horrible red boots but how do you explain Superman fashion faux pas of wearing underweare over his clothes?


Larousse....this may heat up the debate that we are one and the same!

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...the man is sticking to the agenda! ....you must be a 'terror' in meetings, Pio...LOL! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Luna,

I wish you a very belated but very happy birthday.


Thank you, Beth.

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This weekend I hopefully will have some spare time to find out exactly where on MB I need to post now. I am not in R but am not in plan B either. I truly am not sure where I belong.


....do what you must...you may find that like Dorothy.... the 'long yellow brick road' will take you back here...ehumm.. home! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


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luna,

The electric blanket is a metaphor for our relationship regarding the A. It touches both of us but she covers it up and pretends it's not there meanwhile anytime I get near it, it makes me hot.

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Or is that allegory?

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Run Todd, run. I mean that in the nicest, most sincere way.

My name is ToddAC. People call me ToddAC.

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Pio--Explanations will be available this afternoon later on Aisle 3. Your wish is my command. As long as I feel like it, of course! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

ete and ele, the Vowelled One

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Pio--Explanations available later this afternoon on Aisle 3, as you requested. Your wish is my command. Sort of. Occasionally. If I feel like it.

ete and ele, the Vowelled One

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Todd,

Talking of daughters you made me glad that I didn't have one! My father would have been waiting for you with a shotgun.

And this illustrates why I had no daughters.

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You must come from good strong stock Todd, your parents must have been so proud of your fighting spirit.


They weren't so proud of me when I initially was fitted with the boots and braces. I pitched a fit. What was so weird is that I hated the boots more than the braces. It is almost as if they tried to make them ugly. I forgot what they call the people who make such contraptions but they should have to run through the same gauntlet as the guy who invented the MRI.

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Just kidding Todd...you must know by now that I am easy sell when it comes to the importance of 'attitude'...but you certainly seemed to have had endless challenges in your life to 'test' yours!


Nah, just one or two here and there.

Hey Luna,

So you are going to SF this weekend? I think I mentioned it but just in case, be sure to take the boys to Ripley's Believe it or Not Museum. Lots of fun. Dress for cold weather, in layers. Of course, since you live in Canuckville, you should be ready.

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luna,

The electric blanket is a metaphor for our relationship regarding the A. It touches both of us but she covers it up and pretends it's not there meanwhile anytime I get near it, it makes me hot.

So, all this time, the electric blanket was not real? Geez. Who are you really, Hemingway? It was as well camoflouged as TOMATS.

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Speaking of cold, DD was not prepared for the EXTREME cold in the States.

On one bus trip she said she wore two layers of thermals under her jeans, boots, a thermal undershirt, 3 sweaters, a jacket, a beanie and a scarf and she was STILL cold. Her b/f said he could have picked her up and rolled her down the hill like a little ball.

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Speaking of metaphors, the way the braces flew off Forrest's legs was also a metaphor.

After that movie came out I got soooooooo sick of people calling me Jen-ny.

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Speaking of cold, DD was not prepared for the EXTREME cold in the States.

Well, duh. Where did she go? NYC. Boston. Chicago? You know, Florida is very warm. The US is a big country and weather varies wildly.

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The electric blanket is a metaphor for our relationship regarding the A.


BTW Pio....you just reminded of a very interesting Italian movie 'IL POSTINO'...that discusses just that...a metaphor....among other things..and poetry in general...when the well-known poet Pablo Neruba befriends a very 'down to earth' Italian letterman....set in the beautiful coastal area off of Naples...in the 40s or 50s, I believe... a very interesting movie if you ever come across it....yeahs!...just looked it up.... done in....1994! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> ...where doooooesss the time go!

...unfortunately....the Italian actor Massino Troisi who plays the letterman SHOULD have had a heart intervention....but put it off until after finishing the film....bad choice...it cost him his life....died right after shooting the film!.....taking the....sacrificing your life for artistic endeavours....to another level! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I vaguely recall having already brought this up....what can I say people....sorry if it's a repeat... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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Or is that allegory?

Pio...check out the film....it will set you straight on the issue!

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That reminds me, Todd....always meant to ask you...now is a good a time as any..... how did you come up with that name?

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be sure to take the boys to Ripley's Believe it or Not Museum.

...Todd...not going with the boys....wouldn't let them miss a week of school....they'll with their dad....I am going to a work-related conference for a couple of days in the Monterey region....and since I land in SF....taking a few 'extra' days for my little old self to enjoy the scenery! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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So, all this time, the electric blanket was not real?

Thanks, Todd...I feel less stupid...I thought I might have been the only one that hadn't gotten it..... I HAD taken it to mean 'literally' a blanket.... although...somewhat figurately nonetheless..... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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