Hello TKO family,

Agree with all the trigger talk, that is why I am soooooooooo looking forward to moving. I had to explain to my DD1 why I couldn't listen to the radio station she likes...WH received many, many, personalized CD's of love songs and such over the past 9months to the point there is almost no safe song that doesn't have some trigger. He had tons of songs downloaded on IPOD r/t profession and frequently played and replayed songs that must have had some meaning to him...I hate them all...they are bad triggers. Not to mention restaurants he frequented with OWs and admitted to...etc I look forward to the day that I can move past this and listen to anything without flames, fist clenching, tears etc.

I thought this Holiday list would lighten my mood and perhaps yours:

Schizophrenia --- Do You Hear What I Hear?

* 2. Multiple Personality Disorder --- We Three
Kings Disoriented Are

* 3. Dementia --- I Think I'll be Home for Christmas

* 4. Narcissistic --- Hark the Herald Angels Sing About Me

* 5. Manic --- Deck the Halls and Walls and House
and Lawn and Streets and Stores and Office and
Town and Cars and Buses and Trucks and Trees and...

* 6. Paranoid --- Santa Claus is Coming to Get Me

* 7. Borderline Personality Disorder --- Thoughts of
Roasting on an Open Fire

* 8. Personality Disorder --- You Better Watch Out, I'm
Gonna Cry, I'm Gonna Pout, Maybe I'll Tell You Why

* 9. Attention Deficit Disorder --- Silent night, Holy
oooh look at the Froggy - can I have a chocolate,
why is France so far away?

* 10. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder --- Jingle Bells,
Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle
Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells,
Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle
Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells,
Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle
Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells,
Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle
Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells,
Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle
Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells...

Pio and BigK....it's not fair to have secret conversations in front of us! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

2much-your holiday list is hilarious! It did cheer me up! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thanks BigK. That was my second (and more lucid) thought.

Funny 2much! Thanks, I needed that.

Yes, Todd, I use "friend" because it's appropriate. It's really unfortunate she's acting this way & it's getting weirder by the day. I can't answer her strange & off base emails any more. I think what I need to do is ignore her. It's a no win situation at this point.

Personally I like being ignorant. I highly recommend it.

{{{{{Luna}}}}}

OK, here's an excerpt from an email I got yesterday. NMNK loves to play a semantics game. If came back to her & said I'd not lied about anything she'd likely tell me of course she didn't say I lied you're distorting my words again.

"On Sunday Lois asked me why you would lie about how much she paid her models. I told her that you did not really lie - but that because of the pain from your divorce you are in a weird place where you are seeing things in a very distorted way. And the saddest part is that you do not even know it."

I realize this is out of context & probably odd & confusing, but does the whole tone strike you a weird? I would have let this drop already but I'm now a bit concerned abut her.

I promise to let this drop after this as it's so clearly not appropriate for this thread. Thanks for indulging me.

Says who?.... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

As far I am CONCERNED, if it's a CONCERN to you....it's a CONCERN, period....and sooooooo VERY appropriate to this thread!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



If I got this right, Nams....this is your friend saying this about you, in trying to 'defend' you???

....sounds the 'distortion' is happening on her end... some explanation may be found in what's happened or happening in HER life....I find these kind of comments usually tell more about the person saying them than about the person they are talking about!

Is this someone you have known for a long time? ...does it sound to you like she is her usual self?

Well personally I think the models are overpaid anyway.

Thanks for the hug, stph20!

Hug back to you! ((((((((((((((stph20)))))))))))

How are you?

You're welcome and thank you!

I'm...OK. Some days are better than others, but I can't talk about it here!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

I guess I'll have to revive my dead thread and let you know what's going on.

How are you holding up luna?

Thanks Luna, but you know what? I'm tired of this & just don't want to work this hard for her friendship. I've been talking to a RL friend who knows us both & realized this whole situation has been going on for the last couple of months.

First a comment here & there, then insistence, then accusations. I'm sick of it &, honestly, her comments have eroded my desire to remain her friend.

Having decided that has lifted a weight in ways.

....yes please do....lest we forget...you are co-habitating with a WS....that is a concern in itself! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I am holding out OK....the fact that I have a few Xmas parties to go to really helps...good food...good company...it always hits the spot! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

...it being the 2nd year solo.....MUCH much much better than last year overall!

uhmmmm....anybody know what's up with Larousse?

Larousse?? Oh......Larousse???

W H E R E...A R E...Y O U ! ! ! ! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Please check in or we will have to report you to the 'missing persons' department!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

...and that goes for anybody else who intends to be absent for any unreasonable length of time.... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

....as it's understandable how we can be very sensitive to any show of 'lack of respect'.....n'est-ce pas???? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Now....some of us may have the excuse that it's the weekend....with the exception of Pio, of course....whose weekend for some reason is in the middle of the week...go figure! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Pio?...will you be dressing up as Santa Claus for your girls, or will it be the 'invisible' one coming down the chimney.....maybe not...don't suppose in SA you have chimneys.....so will you be squeezing in the air-condition ducks!??...ducs!??....uhmmmm....passage way!!

..unless you fear coming face to face with one of your hamster! ..now..that would be a real 'high noon' showdown!<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

... some friendships are meant to be 'temporary'....

...and if you feel like a 'weight' has been lifted... that says it all I think! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Geeshh...4 posts....and no one in sight!

Time for lyrics.....

I always enjoyed the Righteous Brothers version of 'You've Lost That Loving Feeling'...

....I believe a whole other level of meaning has been added to it for many of us here ...do I need to elaborate?? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

YOU'VE LOST THAT LOVING FEELING

You never close your eyes any more
When I kiss your lips
And there's no tenderness like before
In your fingertips
You're trying hard not to show it baby
But baby, baby I know it

You've lost that loving feeling
Oh, that loving feeling
You've lost that loving feeling
Now it's gone, gone, gone
Whoa-oh

Now there's no tenderness
In your eyes when I reach for you
And girl you're starting to criticize
little things I do
It makes me just feel like crying baby
'Cause baby, something beautiful's dying

You've lost that loving feeling
Oh that loving feeling
Bring back that loving feeling
Now it's gone gone gone
And I can't go on
No-oh-oh

Baby baby I get down on my knees for you
If you would only love me like you used to do
We had a love
A love a love you don't find every day
So don't...don't...don't let it slip away

Bring back that loving feeling
Oh, that loving feeling
Bring back that loving feeling
Now it's gone...gone...gone...
And I can't go on...
No-oh-oh...

I'm not dressing up as Santa but I am trying to convince WW to. She doesn't really like garter belts though. POJA. DD2 is sick with a bad cold so was up crying last night because her "snot was stopped up" (that is direct translation from the Spanish). DD1 woke up and woke me up because she was dreaming about spiders. I still have her in "dream warrior" training but she has a way to go. So she ended up in bed with us but on my side so that WW wouldn't get upset. So it has been a long night and will be an even longer day.

OK luna...I updated my thread just for you! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I'm glad to see that you're doing OK with everything. Partying always helps! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hi everyone - Luna, Nams, Pio, Todd Stef.

I've been real busy. Sorry I haven't posted much but I have been reading....