Boy, Pio...if that's late....what would early be....midnight?

Hi Todd...glad to see you are back on track!

(((Luna)))

Todd, you sound much more in control...hope you are feeling that way. I don't have half your challenges and I still am trying to get some control...externally I am doing well but internally, still all over the map. It stinks but we use the tools available to make the most of what we have or don't <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Pio's got tons of tools...maybe we can borrow some...Can you spare a small corner of the cape...maybe that would help? I guess I could choose my own superpower garb...I may look funny running around in my red snowflake onepiece pj's though...reminds me of the year I got myself some santa lingerie and basically was laughed at...can you believe...I thought I looked pretty hot but WH said the hat threw it over the edge...yeah he's a jerk alright! Never tried that again...

Luna...let it all out girl...I feel your pain...hugs, chicken soup, wine and chocolate...need I say more???

Hang in there everyone. This time of year is hard to get through. I even read about many churches having blue Christmas services.

I'm into Round 3 with my bank. They don't like on-line purchases. They like me to go to the grocery store and buy food, go to the bar and buy a round, but they don't like a lot of other things I do.

So I ended up with 2 Wii Rabbid Rabbit games, 2 Excite Truck games, 4 money orders on their way to Mexico, etc. For some reason, the bank at first declined the charges, and 3 days later, decided they were okay to pay. In the meantime, I went out and bought doubles. And there is STILL around $1,000. floating around somewhere in IT space.

Okay, that is my rant for the day.

I suggest a new bank Believer

I'm all over it, BigK. It is making my Christmas extra stressful. I've been a customer for 30 years, and have money in savings too. They are just so busy "protecting" my money, that I can't use it.

and Christmas is a great time for added stress already. (((Believer)))

Thanks for the hug, BigK.



No....you said it all.....'girl'! ...and...same to you!


....in fact...sooooo many....that he wouldn't even notice were there to be a 'few' missing!

Sorry B. for your IT space trouble....I have a sneeking suspicion (??spelling) you will soon figure out how to make your IT space...history!... Hang in there! ((((((B)))))

BTW....have you seen your OW's S driving around his (your) motocycle lately?

....and what's up with Larousse??....are you out there...are you PLAN Bing us all??? ...would sure like to know that you are OK (at least!)

Yep, I see OW's ex all the time. In fact (you may have missed it), I hooked him up with my son's GF's mom, and they have been dating since July.

B!....you matchmaker you! ....and did I 'hear' it right, B? Now that you have a D, you exWS won't leave you alone? Go figure! How much does that bother you?

The bank is just trying to help you differentiate between what you need and what you want. They gave you the two things we absolutely need. Is the rest REALLY necessary or is it just capricious spending? Hmmm???

Pio - But they don't differentiate between what I want and need. Tuesday I was low on gas, and stopped to get some on the base. DECLINED.

It is something about the electronic part, but I haven't figured out what. It is irritating, but not that bad for me, because I can still get money by going into the bank. I feel bad for people that don't have that much to begin with, and have to go through this, especially at Christmas.

I'm a bit more liberal than Todd, but after going through this, am starting to agree with him. WELLS FARGO, please don't protect my money from me.

Believer, I thought OW in your scenario moved back home? Obviously not into the arms of her husband!

I am really dubious about on-line purchases. After buying some stuff over the internet last year, my card was cloned and somebody drained my bank account in England. I did get the money back eventually but it was hassle dealing with it from the other side of the world. I totally sympathise regarding banks. I used to work for one. Anal bunch.

TT - Yep, OW is living back home. Kind of strange. She has been back there for a long time. I had hopes at first that OW and her husband could overcome the cheating. But instead OW's husband divorced her.

Now that doesn't mean OW isn't back home - she is. And Joe, her ex, is dating my son's GF's mom.

My question is if the dating works out, what are they going to do about OW living with her ex?

Some CC companies offer a service whereby they generate a unique account number for each online purchase. If someone does hack the number, it apparently can't be tied back to your original account. I've not tried this but it may be worth considering.

I still remember the days of the long lines at the bank when people had to get money out for the weekend. Checks were accepted.

Pio - Mine isn't a credit card, it's a debit card. I called Western Union today to find out about the money floating somewhere in cyberland. They told me that the action was declined by my bank (WELLS FARGO, for anyone that wants to know). But in the meantime, my bank put a hold on the money so that they could pay Western Union.

Then, the deal didn't go through because of the bank, (WELLS FARGO, by the way), so Western Union dropped it. HOWEVER, the money is still on hold. The hold will last until they feel like not holding it. I'm thinking several days. After all, they are still protecting my money from me.

I would like to pose a question to TKO. Recently, three mountain climbers died while climbing Mt Hood in Oregon. Public money was used for rescue/recovery operations.

Do you support public money to rescue stranded mountain climbers? Why or why not?

Well as long as the mountaineers aren't French, I do think human life is worth preserving.

If Americans have to be evacuated from a foreign country by the US government and they have no other means, the private citizens may ride on the plane with embassy staff and other govt employees provided there is sufficient space and there are enough bags of peanuts. The private citizens, however, will receive a bill for the flight. Say the flight costs $100K and there are 99 govt employees and 1 citizen on the plane. The citizen will receive a bill for 1/100th or $1,000. If he is the only person on the plane, he will get the full bill of $100K. So, if you are ever being evacuated, pray for a full flight.

If your house is on fire, should the fire department come put it out? It is, after all, a private residence. Why should may taxes go to putting out your home?