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ToddAC #1696818 12/22/06 10:35 PM
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Love you Todd. When you first posted, we were miles apart politically, but you are growing on me.

believer #1696819 12/22/06 10:39 PM
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2much,

You condom analogy is correct and supports believer's POV. If I have an accident, just like a condom, my brains are going to come spilling out. If I have no helmet, they spill on the street. If I have a helmet, they spill inside the helmet. I am much more likely to die without the helmet. I prefer this to the vegetative state that a helmet might allow. Believer, if I ever do have an accident in your state and DON'T die, you have my permission to pull the plug.

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2much, the question is not whether wearing a helmet is a good thing or not, the question is whether our government should tell us we have to wear one to protect ourselves. I think not.

And btw, what do you mean, superhero delusions?

believer #1696821 12/22/06 10:50 PM
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Thank you believer. Seriously, a Libertarian form of government is what our founding fathers had in mind. Thomas Jefferson was a nut for it. So was George Washington. Washington set the example of leaving office after two terms. If his precedent didn't exist, can you see politicans doing that today? No way.

I truly believe that our founding fathers would be appalled to see how pervasive our government is today.

The biggest threat to this country is not terrorism, as big a threat as that is. I could cure that threat in a month or less. The biggest threat is the erosion of self reliance.

piojitos #1696822 12/22/06 10:54 PM
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Pio,

The condom would cover your brain much better than a helmet on your head. But then you are a guy, so that is expected.

ToddAC #1696823 12/22/06 11:09 PM
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Whoa, let's back up a bit. Todd - you could fix the problem of terrorism in a month or less? Do tell.

believer #1696824 12/22/06 11:12 PM
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Whoa, let's back up a bit. Todd - you could fix the problem of terrorism in a month or less? Do tell.

With no problem. Probably would not need an entire month.

believer #1696825 12/22/06 11:13 PM
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"Believer, if I ever do have an accident in your state and DON'T die, you have my permission to pull the plug."

Need that in writing, Pio.

Any attorneys around?

believer #1696826 12/22/06 11:17 PM
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I can sign it, get it witnessed and post it in PDF format on my website for download in case it is needed. I just need help with the wording.

BTW, I'm not entirely against helmets. I just don't want to be told that I have to wear one. I am against helmets in a 3000 Km ride, however. Cannot tolerate that. I also have serious heartburn that helmets require DOT approval. I have a helmet. It isn't DOT approved. I'll snap a photo later and upload it.

piojitos #1696827 12/22/06 11:19 PM
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Solve terrorism in less than a month? A CIA-sanctioned hit on Kenny G. That would do it.

piojitos #1696828 12/22/06 11:25 PM
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"With no problem. Probably would not need an entire month."

Believer, tapping foot, waiting.........

believer #1696829 12/22/06 11:26 PM
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Hmm Believer I don't think you will like Todd's method. I suspect it would make Genghis Khan look like a leftie.


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bigkahuna #1696830 12/22/06 11:35 PM
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Todd and Pio - Do you like Mexican music? I just bought the Alejandro Sanz, "A La Primera Persona" song. Love, it.

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There are literally dozens of "kinds" of Mexican music. Easily more kinds than there are American music. I like most all of them. But what does "to the first person" mean? What is it about?

piojitos #1696832 12/22/06 11:46 PM
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Pio - It is one of the top songs, by the top group for this year. You probably don't get Mexican music cable where you are.

believer #1696833 12/22/06 11:48 PM
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That's a pretty safe bet.

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So, back to the story. Is Todd going to announce his plan tonight?

believer #1696835 12/23/06 12:22 AM
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Maybe in the libertarian form of government, we can't expect the government to tell us what it is NOT going to do? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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The biggest threat to this country is not terrorism, as big a threat as that is. I could cure that threat in a month or less. The biggest threat is the erosion of self


True, but then the gov would need an entire overhaul...we need to quit using gov funding to pay for things that are preventable unless the individuals instituted the preventable measures...helmets, smoking, seatbelts, obesity...should I continue? How do you determine who should get funds and who should not? How do you protect others from the poor judgement of others? Would it then be legal to drink and drive? Carry firearms where ever you wanted?

We have an entire society who blame everything on anyone else except themselves...they rely on society to enforce the rules/boundaries etc and live to push the limits...how would you rectify that in a Libertarian gov?

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Solve terrorism in less than a month? A CIA-sanctioned hit on Kenny G. That would do it.

And Rod Stewart or at least unplug his microphone. And turn off the camera.

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