BTW 2much, I encourage you to send Todd an email. I know he would like to hear from you.

Now Mr. Wizard, I have a question that is puzzling me this AM. Considering electricity and path of least resistance and ignoring variances in population and only looking at it on a per capita basis, do you think the the average citizen in No Trees, Texas has a significantly higher probability of being killed by lightning strike than the average citizen of Thousand Oaks, California?

Just to be clear, I do mean KILLED - not just struck. I have to clarify that because many people who are struck by lightning while near a tree are only hit by secondary charges.

It is important for me to know because we are talking about where we will eventually retire to and your answer will influence our decision.

From Penalty Kill


One thing that I've learned through all of this, and all of life, is that while people might be interested in tawdry gossip at first, eventually human nature takes hold. By that I mean that people are ultimately much more interested in *their own* condition and situation than they are in others'. It's self-interest.

Pio, the reasons that you give for limiting your posting/reading time are quite sound. My H felt that MB was hindering our recovery and contributing to his feelings of anger. He doesn't really post anymore, and I take long breaks. As recently as two days ago he told me that my reading MB bothered him. (And yet I know he was reading infidelity sites last night after I went to bed.) I had been limiting my MB time to when he was not around; I may have to stop coming here completely if it becomes a roadblock to recovery.

Of course, for some people, immersion in infidelity helps. Some BSs wish their FWSs would post and/or read. Basically we all have to do what is right for our recovery. It sounds like you are moving in the right direction; it's just that progress in recovery occurs at a frustratingly glacial pace.

PenaltyX,

Ask you H if he would be interested in talking to me off MB. Maybe we can communicate. If so, I'm not exactly sure how to do it but we could find a way. I was not really sure of your story. I did find a post of yours from about 12 months ago. It was somewhat disturbing. Okay - very disturbing. If I can help in any way, I will.

Of those people who talk about me behind my back, I can look them all in the eye.

For me the anger burns low but long. Maybe it does for your H too.

From Penalty X

I will ask him tonight after our son's game. My H's anger was at peak around the 10 month time frame; that was probably when the shock wore off. Now it's on simmer - burning low as you say, and I'm sure it will continue that way, flaring up from time to time.

Hi All! Just a quick hello!

My time is very limited these days. I've just started a new online class, An American History focusing on Native Americans , & there is lots of reading.

I read & post when I can.

nams,

Let me save you some time. We took their land away. Now they all own casinos and are getting it all back plus interest.

All joking aside, I do have a very interesting letter about the trail of tears I found a little by accident. I'll find the link and post it. I think I may have posted it here long ago but it has been a while.

Okay you can find photos of the original at:


http://www.karlazone.com/trailoftears/page 01.jpg
http://www.karlazone.com/trailoftears/page 02.jpg
http://www.karlazone.com/trailoftears/page 03.jpg
http://www.karlazone.com/trailoftears/page 04.jpg

and my transcription of same at

http://www.karlazone.com

select the "menagerie" and then "trail of tears".

The letter is from 1839 and is quite disgusting.

PIO, people who gossip move on to new targets when they get bored. Likely they have moved on to new targets already. I wouldn't worry too much, after all the shame is Gemela's and not yours. You did not cause the A.

2much, I did reply a couple more times. Did you catch them? I could bump the thread if you need me to. How are you?

Beth, wondering how you are too.

FF,

I don't worry about the gossip. I didn't do anything to be ashamed of. If gemela ever feels any shame as a result, she owns it. I'm also certain that there are plenty of people here who are in no position to be doing any stone casting. I guess though it does make me wonder sometimes if people (men) who know about it might think "hey - she's available!". I do remind gemela from time to time to maintain boundaries - not friendships with men, no regular phone calls with men, no golfing with men, etc. I hate doing it. I always try to do it in as non-LBish a way as possible but I always feel terrible after doing it. I wish I would stop. I guess what makes me feel worst is that it makes me feel like a hypocrite. It seems like I am trying to control her to not have an A which everyone here has taught me is her right if she so chooses. I don't know if that makes sense or not. Let's just say it makes me internally conflicted.

Okay Mr. Wizard. I can't draw you out of hiding on the lightning question so I have another.

It is known that an electrical current moving through a conductor induces a magnetic field around that conductor whose strength is proportional to the current. It is also proven that a conductor moving through a magnetic field (i.e. cutting across lines of magnetic flux) will cause an electrical potential to be induced in that conductor and that the potential will be proportional to the rate at which the flux lines are cut. So - if electricity and magnetism are so closely related, should they be allowed to marry? (note: not applicable in Arkansas).

Hi all,

Super busy with my newest project (sucking the life out of me slowly but fun)...tons of work btwn my homework and helping 3 kids do homework nightly, not to mention all the extracuricular stuff...you'd think I have not time to worry about the wayward...WRONG Nothing new to talk about on that front

FF...got your posts, thank you for your input. I always feel like since our sitches are pretty unique that at least if I bounce it off of you I can gauge how real I am being or how foggy I may be from enduring

I am in limbo all around still...looking for the silver lining...I guess a big plus is at times no action is better than bad action...kids are breaking my heart...my son is slowly sliding into the "man of the house" role and has been trying to comfort me and do "extra's" around the house...he is so sweet and sensitive...DD1 has been brokenhearted several times due to not enough dad time...DD2 just gets more mature and verbalizes everything I think aloud to her dad, I swear she has the gift of mind reading and is fearless and will basically just tell it like it is no matter who she is speaking to...we'll have to work on that as she ages!!!

Pio, thanks for the advice about the wondertwin, perhaps I will try.

Nams, good luck in your class, hope you enjoy it.

Stph how are you? OW still at work?

BK, getting all geared up for the big vacation?

Beth, if you are reading, hope you are hanging tough...you can do this. Let us know how you are when you get the energy. We are all thinking of you.

Luna, hello. What have you been up to.

Going out to play in the snow with the kids despite the fact that it is past their bedtime and a school night. You only live once, right?

Heard a few profound things recently:
1) Your marriage is the most important relationship you will have on earth

2 It is not the value of what we have in our hand that matters it is ....(ok, my kids just fired me up and interrupted so gotta go deal with some FUN; back later)

Well that wasn't very nice. It's a bit like saying:

It finally occurred to me that the perfect solution to an affair and the way to get any marriage back on track and into recovery is...oops DD1 just woke up and I have to go make her chocolate milk.

Pio, Thank you for posting the letter. I'll be back in a few hours to read it & print it out. It looks like something I may want to share with the class.

One thing that really surprised me about that letter was the English. It had its differences, of course, but it still seems not too unlike the English of today. I guess I was expecting something more like dialogue from a Gary Cooper western.

Yes, that was interesting to me too, Pio. I've only had a chance to glance over the letter. I want to give it a thorough reading later when I have time.

Sorry Pio that I stopped midthought but we had a huge meltdown last night and needed immediate attention...

So sad, DS is really taking his male responsibility to heart and he is breaking my heart...he begged me today to let him help me more...he broke down crying saying that he is so frustrated that I don't ask him for help and don't let him help me. He is only 9 1/2 but he sees me struggling with juggling everything...he verbalized that he "hates my laptop" as he sees it cutting into potential "family time". I am carrying a full load in grad school and working on my final project which is extremely time consuming. I do spend tons of time with the kids but it's usually with homework, taking them back and forth to soccer, scouts, clubs etc and then some agreed on activities that we all do together...seems like it is not enough to fill the gaping hole left by the WH...

Anyway I totally lost my thought from my previous message...here is some fun stuff though

Subject: "Where Would Be If..."

WHERE WOULD YOU BE IF:


YOU HAD ALL THE MONEY YOUR HEART DESIRES

YOU HAD NO WORRIES


YOU COME HOME AND THE FINEST MEAL

IS AWAITING YOU...


YOUR BATHWATER

HAS BEEN RUN...


YOU HAVE THE PERFECT KIDS...



YOUR BEAUTIFUL PARTNER

IS AWAITING YOU

WITH OPEN ARMS AND KISSES...

?

SO WHERE WOULD YOU BE?

?

In the wrong

Freakin house!!!

THATS WHERE...

Well, er, except that I take showers, I'm pretty sure I have the right address. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Must be nice Pio!!! Guess I should not have assumed that everyone would find humor in it...those privileged to live there would think I was being presumptive??? Shoot, I'd just like a free pass to visit the neighborhood:)

I just wanted to say I am reading here, not ignoring anyone. I just don't have time free to post at the moment.

I know you were trying to be humorous and it is funny in its way. But I read it and I think I have a pretty nice address. I guess I could try taking baths. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />