But it's not my fault. If my cable ties hadn't gotten all old and faded, I never would have been forced to look elsewhere!

Own your own chit and be a man about this.

No one but you thought your old cable ties were unattractive. They weren't. I bet they're as shiny and serviceable as your fancy pantsy new ones. You just won't see it.

I'm sorry but this is cracking me up.

Pio Listen to Jen.

Happy Birthday Jen.

Okay. Who stole BigK's logon ID?

Hahahahaha

BigK,

Be on the lookout for a DHL package in the next three or four days that I just sent to you. It's a garden gnome with a snake hidden inside. Geez I crack myself up!

Why don't you get some Sharpies or other permanent markers and color your cable ties to suit your mood? Just buy the white ties and color them any color or combination of colors that you desire. Some art might be just the thing to enhance your projects.

This thread is getting to be like herpes: it just won’t go away!

You are getting to be like herpes: just when you have forgotten all about it, there it pops up again.

So - is the cable tie fog over?

I boxed all my cable ties up and left them with a neighbor. I needed a "break". I had to get away from them for a few months to sort out my feelings.

You foggy no good........

Break, my a**. You know very well you'll be after those new ones in the US during your "break" and buying them like there's no tomorrow.

Good grief, do you think we came down in the last shower?

I just don't know if I can ever get back the feelings for my cable ties again. So much has happened.

Maybe I could keep the cable ties. There is a new poster here who has given me some ideas. I'll keep the cable ties for most things but I'll also experiment with other things. Velcro. Chewing gum. Wire twists (I REALLY like that one!). I wouldn't be being unfaithful to my cable ties - these are a completely different type of fastener.

Hmmmm, I don't know if that's the answer.

You know if your old cable ties are used properly I think you'll find they'll beat even wire twists. All those other ties are exciting but they really don't do the serviceable job that cable ties are designed for. Those other fasteners are such a flash in the pan solution and they just won't hold up and last the distance like cable ties will.

Look at your cable ties with new eyes. Look at all they've done for you and how they've been with you through thick and thin.

Just kep your cable ties out of the sun Pio. UV is not good for them.

See Kiwi? I told you I was justified. BigK is an enabler.

Okay I realize this is more of a ToddAC question but I’ll give it a shot anyway.

Let’s say you have a Honda CBR 1000 which has a black leather seat with a surface area of 1.3 square feet. The outside temperature is 118.4F at 12:00PM and the bike is sitting uncovered under a cloudless sky with a relative humidity of 35%. In order to account for convective heat transfer, assume that the wind velocity is 15 miles per hour.

For the sake of simplicity, assume steady state conditions have been achieved and the seat has attained thermal equilibrium.

Assume the rider is wearing chino Dockers (conductive heat transfer coefficient may be estimated).

Taking all these factors into consideration, how long will it take the rider to stop crying after he sits on it?

Please demonstrate all calculations.

Note: All answers will be validated against a recently conducted empirical study. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/teary.gif" alt="" />

Hmm. 1 hour?