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Ugh - the utterings of an active WS...

Her suggestion about you "crying all day" and the rest suggests that she thinks you're weak and won't be able to take it after she leaves. Are you up to proving her wrong?

This is basically the crunch time. If you feel that it will be very difficult for you to execute a good plan B, which means avoiding contact with her until she's ready to come home and respect your boundaries, basically showing her that you are worthy of her respect, then you might want to consider going directly to Plan D.

mamin motion cant kick her out per the lawyer...
do you have an email so we can swap Pnone i need lots of advice fast

Ken -

You need to calm down. This is just the normal wayward talk. Why are you checking her on the keylogger? You know that she is moving - let her go.

I suggest that you let her move out as planned and then continue making your life a good one. Do you have some friends that you can go places with? If so, do it.

Man in motion check email

Ken - We posted at the same time. Why are you getting so excited at the typical stuff the WS spouts? My WH told my co-workers, neighbors, family members and friends all kinds of crazy stuff. Now that we are divorced, and the truth came out, they are still friends with me, and feel sorry for him.

believer check your email

ok continue plan a or plan b or plan d

Jim,

Where the he)) are you? I'm by Parkside and 3 min from the mall. I don't have a lot of time right now, but we can meet for lunch if you want.

ken is for Kenosha?

I'm not a pro by any means, but I'm certainly your peer with a recent separation myself.

Stay in Plan A at this very moment. Plan B needs to be planned, and you are too upset to mess with that right now.

Plan D is not an answer you find when you are in this state. Maybe you consider Plan D at a later point, but not today and not in the next few days.

This is typical Wayward talk. Read others posts, read my story. It's so damn similiar it's funny. It's hard to believe, but it is US vs. Them. It took me quite a while to get into that notion too, but I'm bought in. When I post, it's for support, strategy, to keep a journal of events, and to help others somehow, someway by my story.

I don't think your M is over yet. Don't internalize what she said, feed off it.

Take her strengths and make them your own.

What makes her so strong right now? Your weakness. What happens when you show Strength and Confidence? You have taken that away.

What makes her strong? Thinking she has it all figured out. No, now you do. You took the edge with your keylogger and found some truth. Finding the truth is a necessity that will empower you, waywards call that snooping. We call it revealing secrecy. Take what you know and prove her wrong.

Plan A today, give it some thought and consider either Plan B or the 180. Do you still love your wife? If "Yes", then Plan D is not the answer today.

close enough i could drive there in 20 minutes can we talk? need info fast

calm down and take a breath.

What is going on right now?

jay we need to talk need more feedback then typing you hve an email?

I thought she was planning to move out on her own accord?



Calling me would be expensive, and I don't consider myself expert enough to give one-to-one advice on relationships anyway. Anything I post here is subject to "peer review" :-). If you still need to talk to someone though, I can be IM'd on maninmotion2005@hotmail.com

i am ticked but it is under lock down,
she is somewhere in the house she knows i was alittle something.

i have no clue what she is doing

what is a 180?

yes friends and family in area...

Ken, the phone will do you the best right now. Call your closest friends, your family, vent, vent, vent. And stay home. You don't sound like someone who should be driving right now, I have nearly been in several accidents since this cr*p started for me, I know.

Having someone listen on the phone is going to be the far more therapeutic for you than emailing or IM. Especially when you are experiencing anxiety like this. I know from experience.

The strongest, most confident men can be broken (I read in one story the description "emotionally raped") by this stuff. We all have been DEVASTATED by this.

Stop. Breathe. Pick up the phone. Grab a beer. Is no one around? Get mad, cry, LET IT OUT! Tonight you Plan Zero. If she talks to you and you are feeling angry, defensive, simply not ready to talk in a calm, controlled, confident manner: Don't talk. She calls, don't answer.

If you do leave, go somewhere you are comfortable, like a relatives house. Borrow a room and pick up the phone. Have them grab some couch while you pace.

It's about you tonight, not her. Tomorrow we plan, tonight we help you.

Trust us, please, and take a breath and talk it out with someone. (Not her tonight)

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Ken313:


Yes, relax.

So she said some WW things.

Make you Cry?

Than Man-Up. Don't cry. Plan A, and improve yourself and get ready for Plan B.

Relax.

The fight will begin tommorrow. And she won't know what hit her, if you do it right.