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WOW, WOW, WOW.

That is some powerful stuff there.

Ties many of the strings of this thread together.

What created my anger?

Created similar anger in MEDC.

(I was gonna get your back MEDC, someone called my son that, I rumbling too...) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

But LA brought it back.

Great stuff to contemplate... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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LA... thnak you and while I do not agree with all you said... I appreciate your heart and the time and caring you have displayed in all of your posts to me. I will think about your words.

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Thanks LG.

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no one can post threats to another poster

do that enough ~~~> end up in banned camp <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

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I made my apologies to Justuss..sorry, but I get a bit reactive when something concerns my son. Sorry if I offended you Pep.

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just don't go too far .... I don't want to be sending your mail to banned camp

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Pep:

Banned Camp! LOL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

You didn't see American Pie did you? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

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ummmmmmmmmmmm

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I won't... I will just choose to ignore that kind of stuff in the future. The ignore feature will come in handy!

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Thanks for reading, LG...now, step up to the microphone and lemme know what you think, 'k?

Pretty please?

Oh, and did you think Pep wouldn't know that reference? She has a dark side...a marvelously danger one.

ROFL

Now, I on the other hand did not see American Pie (or its sequels)...so I'm clueless. Saintly, even, eh?

Yeahrightsure on the saintly part.

MEDC...once I found out sarcasm was abusive, I really got it in myself and out of myself. When I get really reactive, I slip into it. Same for self-deprecation. If you'd think I'd be lousy at stand up without it, well, you might be right.

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Jerry... again I would like to thank you for your calm head and a willingness to read the communications between LG and me. If my words of anger directed towards CN offended you, I apologize for having stirred you up.
Again, thank you for your kind words.

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SMOMY - lemme guess here k? Does your wife's OM's Spouse know he had an affair with your wife?

Big K- You all do not understand my point....it has to do with someone forcing their morals down soneone else's throat....

For the record...my FWW had an affair with a divorced man...a middle aged predator....


Me BS - 44
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EA for 4 years with fellow employee
became PA in Jan 04 - I knew of this one.
Seperated/ Divorced July 03
2 sons 14 & 12
D Day -6/26/04- PA in 1998 for about 1 year- I had NO idea.
recovery and reconciliation began 6/27/04

Remarried 2/18/06

My story?? Click below.

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Is expressing your opinion or having personal standards equivilent to forcing morals down peoples throats?

Is there something inherently offensive in saying...fail to meet this standard and fellowship with me is not an option?

You must be this tall to enter a relationship with me?

I absolutely support personal standards over marriage recovery.

My belief is if the price of recovery is my self respect the price is too high.

I apply that belief to all my posts and am happy to consider myself a bigot on the issue.


Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once ~Shakespeare
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Is expressing your opinion or having personal standards equivilent to forcing morals down peoples throats?

Is there something inherently offensive in saying...fail to meet this standard and fellowship with me is not an option?

You must be this tall to enter a relationship with me?

I absolutely support personal standards over marriage recovery.

My belief is if the price of recovery is my self respect the price is too high.

I apply that belief to all my posts and am happy to consider myself a bigot on the issue.

You, MEDC, and everyone else has the right to their opinion..as do I. But "moralilty" kind of reminds me of religion sometimes.....people miss the big picture...

Let us not forget the immense human rights violations in the name of God or Morality that still happen today. While some of you may agree with the concepts of right or wrong some people bring it to a different level.

You're a self righteous bunch.....and in many cases have the right to be...however...I do not see where this particlar thread is helping anyone with their marriage......and as such I will leave it alone...there really is work to be done..... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Me BS - 44
FWW- 42
EA for 4 years with fellow employee
became PA in Jan 04 - I knew of this one.
Seperated/ Divorced July 03
2 sons 14 & 12
D Day -6/26/04- PA in 1998 for about 1 year- I had NO idea.
recovery and reconciliation began 6/27/04

Remarried 2/18/06

My story?? Click below.

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=129980&Number=1575914
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The big picture being....what?

If I missed something important I'd like to know what it is.


Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once ~Shakespeare
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Incidentally MEDC and CN...

Sheesh couple of edits and one board momma bear and the two of you just drop it?

My popcorn wasn't even finished popping yet!

It's all about stamina boys.

And entertainment.

Specifically MY entertainment.


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lol! Noodle... your willingness to stand up for what you believe says a lot about you. Thanks.

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noodle<----- bigot to the bone


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Is expressing your opinion or having personal standards equivilent to forcing morals down peoples throats?

It depends on how you're expressing your opinion.
I didn't see the stuff on this thread before it was edited but I surmise from the comments that some of it degenereated to name calling. Expressing your opinion about a topic is not shoving morals down people's throat. Calling people names is still not shoving morals down someone's throat, in my opinion, but it is rude and seems to imply there is some other agenda being run other than simply expressing an opinion.

If someone else's opinion is so offensive to you that you feel you have be right, responsibility, or latitude to then call that person bad names then you've crossed the line beyond simply expressing your opinion. If you feel you need to use strong langugae and hateful speech because you've disagreed, then you're no longer attempting to communicate your opinion about a matter and you've segued into some other agenda - perhaps you're trying to punish the person or shame the person into complying with your agenda. Or, perhaps you're just mitigating your own fear of people that don't think like you.

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Is there something inherently offensive in saying...fail to meet this standard and fellowship with me is not an option?

No, though on the recent thread dealing with abortion http://www.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/sho...art=11&vc=1 MEDC said to me:

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This, IMHO, makes you a bad person. The fact that you can say that even if the baby experienced pain... and being pulled apart... and you would still be okay with that... you are a sad excuse for a human.

I asked him why he felt the need to share that opinion with me because I am curious about what his agenda is for explaining to me that, in his opinion, I am a sad excuse for a human. He never answered. I'm really interested as to what he thought that opinion was going to accomplish. Was he trying to make me mad? upset me? Was he hoping I wanted to be on his "good excuse for a human" list badly enough to change my opinion?

If he wanted to say "I don't want to be your friend." then why not just say that?

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You must be this tall to enter a relationship with me?

I absolutely support personal standards over marriage recovery.

My belief is if the price of recovery is my self respect the price is too high.

I apply that belief to all my posts and am happy to consider myself a bigot on the issue.

Why would you say that to someone on a message board unless that person asks you why you aren't participating? It's one thing to say that to a person you deal with in what we like to call "real life" but a message board is fluid lots of people ignore lots of threads/posts/posters.

Why bother telling people you don't like him/her, she/he is a bad person (or worse), or you don't want to be his/her friend on an anonymous message board? It does come across as agenda-pushing. It does come across as being punitive or manipulative. It does not come across as having a moral disagreement or being respectful and having a different opinion. It doesn't come across as trying to further productive discussion.
Just my $.02,
Mys

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