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Maybe,

It helps tremendously. I'll definately say something soon. She needs to hear it regardless of what she's thinking right now. Just another seed to plant.

I'm really just down because I havn't had contact with her in 4 days. I miss her.

I went an bought some cigars to get me through the weekend at lunch. They seem to have a trigger effect on me now. Just buying them makes me feel better. Anxiety subsides. Meds would probably be cheaper, but not as enjoyable. I need to start keeping one handy around the house in case I get an attack like I got this week.

Anyway, I'm going goof off at the wherehouse for an hour or so and then I'm going get DS and head for Houma. I may check in before I leave, but if not I probably won't be around until Sun so everybody have a nice weekend.

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How are you going to maintain NC? Didn't your WW meet your OM at work, or was he just friends of one of her coworkers?


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She works with him. We talked about no contact when she came clean Sun and I asked Mon if there was contact and she said she saw him in the morning, but no talking. Turned her head. They work on opposite sides of the school, so the only time she could accidentily bump into him is in the mornings when they check in. This weekend I should get and update from the weeks events and I can get a better idea if NC is going to be a problem. She's still pretty fogged out and not all that interested in me being a part of her life. It's hard to say what can be done. She is gone and doesn't have much to do with me. The only control I have anymore is to Plan A the he// out of her when I get the oppertunities.

I'm in a very difficult situation until she either recommits to the M or at least lets me back in to some extent.

What else can I do?


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It is going to be hard to get her to commit to the M as long as there is contact with the OM at work. There is no NC until that happens. One or both or them need to change jobs at the end of the school year if you M will survive. I think you'll notice a marked improvement in your situation once the school year is over. However, things will get worse again if she is back teaching with OM again in the fall.


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Well, i hope that you have a great weekend with your little man!

So, what kind of cigars are you into? I have a good friend who likes to smoke them...we went to Mexico once and both him and STBXH had a Coheba (?)...of course, they had to smoke it while we were on the Mexico side! LOL

I like the smell of some of them...


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It's Cohiba for future reference. I am a big fan of the CAO Brazilias and Extremes (for a spicier cigar) as well as the Onyx (for a smoother, more refined taste). Those are probably my favorites.


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Thanks Jim, I'll keep that in mind...I came close! LOL

I'm not to familiar with the name...if I had to go out an buy one for a gift I would probably fail miserablily! LOL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Jim,

Right now she isn't supposed to be going back to that school next year. She's actually talking about getting out of teaching all together. Thinking about nursing. If we can hold on till the end of school we'll probably be all right.

I like the Romeo Y Julieta's. I also smoke the Padron's with my boss. His brand. He's been giving me some since he found out I use them for anxiety. Right now I favor a mild flavor. Until the last few years I smoked an occasional pack of Swisher Sweets until a neighbor turned me on to real Cigars. I havn't ventured out much. Thinking about getting a humidor and start buying by the box. Maybe get some of those sample boxes with the mixed batch.

Oh Rin..your mechanic likes Henry Clay's if you want to give him a TIP.

Well I'm off to get the boy and head to my Mom's.

Everybody Wang Chung Tonight!


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Wang Chung? I'm lost...make it on your calendar...doesn't happen much! LMAO <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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I don't know how to say this, but here goes

It was a lame attempt, but WW tried to kill herself Sat morning. Swallowed what was left of her monthly prescription of zanex and prozac and took 10 - 15 demerol that I'm guessing is left overs from DS3's birth. It didn't really do her anything, but she is in the hospital under observation for 72 hours. She has requested privacy and I am not allowed to see her or receive updates as to her treatment. Apparently I have no legal rights of any kind as long as she is conscious. Right now she is refusing to see me, her BF, and her mother. She is only letting in a few lady friends from school.

So here I sit getting very little info and not being able to do a Fing thing concerning WW's treatment. Right now she is stuck in the ER due to lack of rooms and her IC says there wouldn't be anybody to treat her till Mon. He can also do nothing until she lets him in. I hope to God they send her somewhere for a proper evaluation. If they don't there's nothing I can do to make it happen.

MIL is on her way and now accepts the sitch and is joining forces with me and BF. So that's about the only good news in this. If WW would at least let MIL in maybe she can talk her into proper treatment.

Tomorrow I am contacting my A to try and get temporary full custody. I don't want WW to be alone with DS or be able to pick him up from DC until she gets properly treated and proves she is healthy over time.

She has completely crashed 4 times in the last month, once with DS and once when she was supposed to pick up DS and didn't because she ran to Texas. I have to protect DS now even if it pushes her back over the edge.

The only immediate delima I have right now is that MIL will probably be here tonight and will probably stay with me. Should I not mention custody with her yet. I'd rather wait until I've gotten the ball rolling with it, but I also don't want to stall the progress I have made with MIL. I don't want her to feel like I did this behind her back.

any thoughts?


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Do they not have a psychiatrist on staff/call??


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Nope, Kind of a small town Hospital and she's coherent so I guess they figured it could wait. But I really don't know, They won't give me any info.


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It all depends on the stance of your MIL. If she is trustworthy and not easily swayed by the WS, then you can take her into your confidence. If you are not sure if brains are thicker than blood, then be cautious. Work with your lawyer to secure your finances and child custody immediately.

If the WS is pushing you away, do so but also know that this may limit her healing but that's her choice. She is trying to punish herself and you. Realize this and you will be able to know HOW to act and reaact.

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HI, BC-

I'm sorry to hear that you are in so much pain...this has got to be SO hard for you...

I have to agree with O of this...I understand that your family comes first and right now that family is you and your son...

Remember I before E...I think that you really need to take a few days and think about your sitch...what's in the best interest of your son?

If this were my case I'm not sure that I would want my child around the WS...I see that you Are going to take those measures...Good for you!

I wouldn't at this time mention anything to MIL...

By the way, thank you for talking with mechanic man...I greatly appreicate you and your efforts...

You seem to be a religious man...a would pray for guidance and to do his will...sometimes that will is NOT what we would like...so take your time, breathe, and take care of yourself at this time...try to stay focused on yourself...

No committee meeting in your head! Keep it Simply!

I'll be praying for you in your time of need!


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praying for you too. Be strong for your DS he needs you now more than you know........his little world is coming apart and you need to shore it up.K?

Stay out of your WW storm.Be a light and love always....

God is with you always.......even when it doesnt seems like it.

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Thanks Orchid

I just received word that WW has been moved to a hospital with a mental ward and has been admitted. She'll be there at least 72 hours and they start treatment immediately. She went willingly and scared as he//. She still doesn't want me to know where she is, but she's OK with MIL staying with me and is willing to see MIL, although she has left her appt keys for MIL if she wants to stay there, which I'm sure she will.

So I am at least relieved to know that she is being treated by the right people and isn't angry with me. If you recall we had a nice evening together last time I was with her.

As far as MIL goes. We had a serious talk yesterday and she tried to throw a little bit my way, but I stood my ground and pretty much told her everything I want to say to WW but can't because of Plan A and of course her current situation. MIL is on board now a wants WW to get the help she needs. MIL was in some denial for a while, but when WW left me and I wasn't really a part of her life anymore and WW continued to lose it, people started realizing it wasn't really me causing it. The last month I've barley even been in the picture.


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YIKES!! I wouldn't look at that as a lame attempt at suicide - she took quite a few meds. That was a cry for help. Thankfully she is safely locked up in the hospital.

Now it is time for you to stand for your family. I wouldn't mention it to MIL, but would definitely get temporary custody of your son until all this is sorted out.

I'm sure your wife is ashamed at the mess she has gotten herself into. Be supportive and kind. Let her know that you are there for her, and wish to move on to a better marriage.

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honestly...i kinda feel sorry for her.Almost like a page out of SAA. She has hit rockbottom and sees no way out except suicide.

You need to be there for your family now more than ever...

Remember that.

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Thanks for the responses.

I'll hold off on telling MIL about custody until it's done.

and don't worry. DS is well taken care of. He's actually with my parents right now until I get the legal stuff taken care of. When I go get him I want everything to be in place. I'm not taking any more risks when it comes to him. He's been involved too much already.

I am backed by my parents, work, my friends, my family, and the neighborhood so I have a very large support system. Not to mention MB and Cigars for my head.

Thanks Again


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BC,

I am so sorry that this is another sad event added onto you. I'll pray for your family tonight.

Your W is going to get the help she needs... stay strong.

Still


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