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Howdy Rin,

Do you currently have a R with POWS, that goes beyond CS and handing the boys over when visitation occurs?

If not, then why would you discuss this with him at all? Are you in Plan B?

I dunno, Rin. If you are not having a R with this FRIEND that goes beyond friendship, and nothing can be leveled against you in court (in other words, this R is on the up 'n up) then I don't see the need to discuss it.

Again, if you don't have a R with POWS, then there is no need to discuss this. Maybe others will feel differently. If YOU are uncomfortable, maybe you should find some other friend, maybe of the female persuasion, to help you. If not, I don't see the reason to discuss this with him.

It really sounds like it's up to the FRIEND to decide whether to extend himself in this way. He will be the one dealing with POWS regularly at work.


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It really sounds like it's up to the FRIEND to decide whether to extend himself in this way. He will be the one dealing with POWS regularly at work.

it is on the up and up and I didn't think about it being his place...

No, I don't have a R with POWS other that CS and the boys and don't really talk to him about that...my choice...not really in a PLan...but if I had to pick one, It would be B...

I do have other friends, female...I know that I was talking about dating and such about a week ago and I did come to the conclusion that I AM really busy with the boys and my other activities...heck, I find it difficult to make a simple phone call...even that has to be managed now a days...


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There may be differing opinions about this, Rin, but mine is that the friend is responsible for his relationships with other, even if those 'others' include your STBX.

If it's just mowing the lawn and supplying him with 'beer' payment, then I'd say it's no biggie for YOU.

I sincerely do believe that you should avoid dating until the dust settles from DIVORCE. You will still be on that coaster until well after the ink dries. I do understand wanting companionship, though; you just have to be careful and be clear about the relationships you have. Sounds like you have been, so that's good.

Rin, as an aside, you are always sooooo busy. You may be running yourself ragged, girl. Is there something that you can put aside for now, that isn't totally necessary, or something that you can get more help with, so that you can slow down.

I know you are a girl on the go, and always have been; I get it, my sister is like that, but sometimes you need to find quiet, peaceful time to reflect and gain strength to move forward.


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If it's just mowing the lawn and supplying him with 'beer' payment, then I'd say it's no biggie for YOU.

LOL...Funny that you say that, it's beer payment...not only am I unavailable but he's got his own sitch making him unavilable...TBH, even if I wanted to it would be SUCH a bad idea all around...that would be setting everyone involved up for failure from the start...it's just not healthy...

There's Frog and the rest of the lot saying I know right from wrong...LOL...

It's been a long process to get to this point in my thinking, I think that the past week made that pretty clear with board meeting adn business meeting, school, religion, and work...now I won't have another business meeting until Feb., so that's out of the way and my next board meeting is next month...

I was trying to make plans to go to New Orleans this Sunday but didn't think that would be wise knowing that I needed some down time, so cancelled that to do the grass cutting thing and hang out around the house...result of noticing how tired I was Tues. night after getting home...exhausted on a TUes., something needed to be cut out...

Tonight is strickly hang out at the house, cook supper, adn enjoy being with the boys...I "should" go get them hair cuts today, they need it, so that MAY be the only thing I do outside of cooking and even that will be simply...

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Hello Rin!

Hmmm. I would NOT talk to POWS at all about it. Not at all. I would have to say that I think that the ball is in your friends court. If he wants to pursue the friendship with you, then he will find a way. Just be careful, and if he is saying that this is a problem for him, it MAY just be that the friendship is not as needed for him.

I would let him sort it out. Maybe you should back away from calling him and stuff, let him decide what he wants to do. Because if he wants to pursue the friendship, he WILL.

Also, if he knows POWS, he may KNOW what a jerk he can be, and he may not want any of the drama in his life.

I just think that you should let your friend decide. It will play out. Don't try to convince him that you can work it out, don't talk to POWS about it, it will just make him mad, and he will do SOMETHING to you....

So I would talk to your friend, tell him you respect his opinion, but if he is ever wanting to call or anything, that he is welcome to. Be nice, understanding, and leave it be. He is probably conflicted.

I hope that this helps.......

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HI SADMO!!! I think that between you and SL, it's a done deal...

For lunch I'm going to head over to the pawn shop and see if they happen to have a lawnmower...I mentioned wanting to head over there to him last night when I talked to him and I told him that if this was going to pose a problem I could make other arrangements and he said no that it would be fine...

I guess I'm just to the point where I'm tired of losing things/people b/c of POWS...but I think that you are very right...if this friendship IS important to him than it will happen...so I have to let it go and give it to God...

So If i find a lawnmower then I could tell him that he doesn't have to worry about coming Sunday, explain the sitch and be done with it...if not, let Sun. ride, explain the sitch, thank him, and let it ride...

Done, it seems so much more clearer posting here than holding committee meetings in my head...

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I'm glad that you are taking a much needed break from the grind that you have been enduring lately. You deserve some time to get quiet, be still.

It's really a pleasure to see that anything I say helps others.

I come here for the same reason; not necessarily to be TOLD the answer, but to have it thrown around a bit, see what comes back.

Howdy Sadmo, hope you are getting some of that peace that we speak of for yourself.


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LOL...Thanks...you ARE needed around here! I hope that you know that! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Well, pawn shop had one that I was okay with...self-propelled...my first...john Deere at it too! For the money it will do!

So I called him, explained that the grass was my problem and I appreciated him being a friend and trying to help but the his job was important to him, not me...

I told him that I got a lawnmower and that this morning I was trying to perhaps force a solution because I have lost so much this year...he said that if I didn't have HN2 that worked there as well it wouldn't be problem...

So I said that I understood and said that I liked our friendship the way it was and if he wanted to call or hang out just let me know...

He sounded really happy and said "That's my girl handling the situation!" He was happy about my purchase too...so all is good...

So in an hour, I bought a lawnmower, went home, tried it out, called him, and am now back at work...sometimes the simpliest solution is the best...

SO Thank you both so much! And one in there for Eph too...


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How is Eph? HE doesn't post too much anymore for reasons that I already know. Hope he is doing well.

John Deere is a great brand. I had a teensy little riding mower of theirs that was probably about 15-20 years old when it finally crapped out. The deck had rusted out; I was holding it on with a couple of coat hangers at that point. It just kept going. The little engine that could (like our Rin, here).


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E is doing well, if I must say so myself! (Oh, and was told to mention!) LOL...'m sure that he will be around in his own time! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> There's a BIG brother if I ever had one...

MOF, I was told that I needed to work on sharing my feelings because I'm the type of person that will feel it but will have a smile on my face and sad underneathe...

So I'm here, sharing my feelings...I am really sad and I am teary eyed...I teared up with I talked to my friend when I mentioned to him that I have lost so much this year...

I'm alone at work right now and I am hurt and very sad that POWS is still impacting my life the way he is...and he's not even really in it...I'm tired of HIS choices affecting ym life darn it! I lost the friends that I thought I had, had to move out of my house, lost almost everything that I've had, replace, repair, and borrow...

Now, I'm not saying that I'm not grateful, I AM...I have been humbled...taught humility...and to think that I could lose ANOTHER friend b/c of this whole sitch upsets me a great deal...

:Note to others: I am crying! (Just for the record!)

Here in the last month I have learned alot about myself and have had to set some boundaries that I'm not really happy with but I know that it's for my own good in the long run (and have been told that)...I have resisted and been angry and have cried b/c this is NOT my first choice!!!

And why should I have to do this b/c POWS chose to do this...and it's just not fair and I want to throw a tandram like a little kid sometimes...like today...that's what I see in my mind...me on the floor throwing a tandram...crying and saying it's not fair...

So today's not really a sad down in the dumps day like Monday...I was just completely sad that day as well as Sun...

So this minute that's where I am...

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POWS just TMed me with: U need to pay that cable

So I thought about it, b/c my first response was not so nice and the closest thing to reverse babble I could come up with was: yes sir, i'll take care of it just like u would!

He TMed back: what does that mean

I replied: It will get done

I just didn't say "in my own time!"

This is the cable that I asked him to turn off and he didn't so I had to wait for them to turn it off, only in his name...the same one that had a previous balance when we moved back into the house...

I have plans to pay half of it next Friday...I COULD pay it all but why would I want to do something like that...

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Who is supposed to pay it?
Why did you agree to pay it? I thought this was his to pay....?

His bill, he was living there, he wouldn't cancel it once he left .... I would let it be his issue. I'm sure they are trying to collect from him, which is why he's angry.

Silly boy, he thinks that you will keep paying all his bills.

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Yes, they are trying to collect from him...probably the second call...OR CS was in the mail box when I got home...POWS saw the new fence across the driveway and the doors on the garage...

He wrote on the bottom of the CS check: Child support (only)...

Is it my fault that his world is [email]cr@p[/email] and we are doing well...

OKay, let's get to the bottom of this bill thing...We moved back in Sept. 23, the company bills a month in advance...So, sept. 30th to oct.31st...so that would be 94 dollars...then from Oct. 31st to nov. 30th...so that would be another 94 dollars...so that means that he owes a month before we moved in...now legally we should owe six days of that month also...

So I pay our partion in my mind...which is about 120 dollars...

Just my thinking...open to others...


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Actually about 150 with the days before they turned it off...


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Rin,

Sweetie, remind me again why you are playing this game with the cable?

Didn't you shut it off in his name & start it in yours from the date you moved back?

You are much better than this,,,,

Don't get me wrong,,I understand where you are coming from. POWS is pi$$ed because of HIS OWN actions coming back to bite him in the BEhind. It is FUNNY.

But what does it add to your life OR diminish in your life?

So, please clarify. Is your cable now in your name? Are they looking to collect on HIS old bill?

Remember, you are dealing with a 5th grader here!!


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HI Bugs, I couldn't switch it when we moved in...I just got Direct TV hooked up last weekend...I was going to go with the same company for cable but when I called to get my internet changed there was a bundle deal that was cheaper by $40/month...so I went with that...

This is why I've been off the internet for so long...wait on this wait on that...I couldn't touch his account when I moved in...

So right now, everything is in my name except the gas bill and that account I can change into my name with a simply 30 dollars...it was in my name and with a simply 30 dollars he transferred it into his name...I'm using his deposit up first...


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Hi, well, I don't have the kids this weekend, well, until Wed. at noon...

After work I plan to go home and lay on the sofa or crawl in bed, watch some TV but it won't be long before I'm asleep...so that's what I have in mind for tonight...

Tomorrow Spon. is picking me up and i'm helping her plan her H's company party...we're going shopping with the company's money...got to love that! probably will take the whole day and that night I have a B-day party to attend...

I tried out the lawnmower yesterday so I'll finish the grass Sun...outside of that I don't have anything else that I'm doing...So all of you that keeps telling me to slow down or say that I'm Taz...here it IS!

i have one phone call to make and that's it this weekend...no other committiments or anything! just me, the remote, and rest...and I promise to do my best not to get lonily b/c when I get lonily I get depressed and spiral!

For all of you out there who are interested in the personality types, I'm INFJ...

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ENFJ <---------me

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WEll, hello cousin!

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Like their INFJ cousins, ENFJs are blessed through introverted intuition with clarity of perception in the inner, unconscious world.

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INFJs regard problems as opportunities for them to design and implement creative solutions.

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According to Keirsey,[4] INFJ Counselors are quiet, private individuals who prefer to exercise their influence behind the scenes. Intensely interested in the well-being of others, Counselors prefer one-on-one relationships to large groups. Sensitive and complex, they are adept at understanding complicated issues and driven to resolve differences in a cooperative and creative manner.

Accounting for about two percent of the population, Counselors have a vivid inner life that they may be reluctant to share with those around them. Perceptive of the emotions of others, Counselors are themselves easily hurt, though they may not reveal this except to their closest companions.

A list of Basic Charateristics [5]
- sensitive
- quiet leaders
- great depth of personality - intricately and deeply woven, mysterious, and highly complex, sometimes puzzling even themselves
- introverted
- abstract in communicating
- live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities - part of an unusually rich inner life
- artistic (and natural affinity for art), creative, and easily inspired
- very independent
- orderly view towards the world but within themself arranged in a chaotic, complex way only they could understand

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Feeling types seek continuity through harmonious relationships and collective values. They excel at picking up on the tone of a situation and acting accordingly, adding warmth to a cool setting or turning sour into sweet. They will naturally seek to know what people do well, what they enjoy, where and how they work, and understand what they need in order to make the appropriate connections with other people. They weave and strengthen the collective fabric of social conventions and interactions.

Let an extroverted feeling type know that you are in need of an accountant and they will most likely give you several names. They seem to have an infinite number of acquaintances from all walks of life and are always on the lookout for people in need and those who can help out. Inclusiveness is important and they are particularly sensitive to those who are excluded.

Harmony comes from good, supportive relationships and upholding collective values. They are always focused on the other person, feeling a glow when those around them are happy, and troubled when something is amiss. They are natural cheerleaders, often expressing support, gratitude, and encouragement, and heaping praise onto those they appreciate. They take note of what is being done and what needs doing, offering their help and assistance wherever necessary.

As team players and project leaders, they have a gift for rallying their players, focusing on what is being done right and each member's strengths. They are loyal and they expect loyalty. They carry conversations well, finding common ground with their speaker. They tend to find the correct and gracious way to respond in any given situation, no matter how tense or uncomfortable it is.

It is well to note that extroverted feeling types will uphold a wide range of values, simply because shared values are what create harmony. Some will profess the importance of tough-minded logic, justice and scholarly debate because their environments have these shared values. They tend to adopt the collective values of those they love and 'belong to'.

DO you think that it's you to the tee?


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POWS tried calling about an hour ago...my heart leaped when I saw his name...

I didn't answer...no message was left...then I had to restrain myself from TMing him or calling back wondering if it was the kids...

Talked to a friend and I'm over the urge...just felt like I was going to hear about the cable bill or some other stupid stuff...I can't talk to him I don't want to hear the [email]cr@p...[/email]

I am alone tonight with my dog and the TV...I like the peace and quiet...I felt like if I talked to him then that would be interrupted and I guess if it was important than he would have left a message...

So I guess I'm going to go back and lay down and try hard to let it so...relax and rest...


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