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Today was very frustrating. I have days where I think I might have a chance of fixing this mess & then days like today where I question everything. It is very frustrating.

And listening to Pink Floyd doesn't work either.

I don't know if I should order 500 new headshots and sign up for 2 new acting classes or not.

And I don't have a job. The mortgage business stinks and there are no jobs.

I'm having a pity party of one today. I've lost 3 more lbs though. That's one good thing.


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Nice post blondblossom. Very meaningful.


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Hi LA,
sorry that I didn't post sooner..........I had the flu. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I had asked you what attracted your husband at the beginning.....you wrote your looks and you being the happy going gal......the "touchyness" that you went through and sorta went away during the years.
Well, I'd say that the looks of a woman can be indeed an important "Emotional Need" for a man and the mixture of good looks + humor can indeed be highly attractive for a man when he meets a woman. (True Beauty comes within a person....it gives a person a special glow.) This mixed with SF usually works in every relationship at the beginning.

But you also wrote that this changed during the years....

This is where I'd say that looks no longer play the most important role in a relationship.

Your looks will probably always attract him.......and if you have read about Emotional Needs here in MBers.....you will understand that this will probably always be important for your husband. But it's the mixture of fullfilling needs.....

My husband and I will be married for 28 years this year. When we met, I was 14yo. Chirpy, happy, easy going and I'd say my husband was facinated about my looks and my humor and we couldn't keep our hands off each other.

Now so many years later and the fact that we've been through so many stages of life.........I know that looks are indeed important for my husband but I also know that it always depends on the mixture........

My husband had an affair with a woman that looked somewhat like me..........only that I had changed. I am NOT saying that it was my fault that he choose to have an affair.......NO WAY.

I'm trying to say that it was the mixture of many things that attracted him to this woman. I'd say due to the fact that I am NOT ugly....he was craving for humor, admiration and a woman that wasn't clingy.

I had lost that..........during the years. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> When my husband and I talk about our situation it becomes clear why this happened throughout the years. We were in the cycle of reality. Children, business and many other things.......

We lost what we call...........our "golden thread" that held us together for the greatest time of our relationsip.
(hope you understand)

So my husband was somewhat looking for what "we" had shared for so many years..........only he didn't realize that he could have it all with me if he would of been capable to give his 100%. No relationship works if only one side is taking and the other only gives.

It seems to be that this is a big problem for many relationships..........

I was giving..........and he was taking..........and that sucked!!!! I slowly but surely didn't have much to laugh about anymore and there wasn't anything truely there to admire.

We lost the contact with each other. My looks didn't count anymore..............

Hmmmm, this is getting long isn't it?? Sorry.

When I read your thread, I just noticed that you are being told to contact him everyday.......he's telling you to leave him alone....he's backing off and you're pressing.

This situation isn't easy.........and I do feel with you.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if you choose to Plan B???

Right now, he is making the choice whether to contact you or not and you are taking what you can get.

He knows how you tick. I understand from what you wrote that he wants you to back off.

Pressuring him is a turn off for him. What do you think will happen if you do back off???

I know that you want to stay married and I am definately PRO marriage, don't misunderstand me.

I just think that it is important for you to concentrate on yourself right now and to become the person you once were.

A happy, fun person.............and you weren't that way because he was there. You were happy because YOU were YOU!!!!

Backing off and do everything for yourself to achieve happyness within yourself can be the most attractive point your life.

Pressuring him seems to be a complete turn off...........I'm sorry for being so blunt.

Get him thinking...........what will he think if he doesn't hear from you anymore..........turn the cycle around.

I hope that I am not off track for your situation...........I just do know that looks + humor + independent behaviour mixed together seem to be highly attractive...............

You wrote that he's confused..............very true. Affairees are always confused...........it's up to you to confuse him even more...........get him into the thinking mode. Plan B. Do all you an for yourself. Read all about Plan B and what affect it can have.

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PS: I keep finding things I want to say. I'm surrounded with many very beautiful women.......honestly.....they are so beautiful....I have to grasp at times. But many of them are unhappy. Most of them are separated or in the misc of separating. Everything about them seems so perfect.....the only thing that really seems to be missing is the sparkle that comes from deep down inside. When they are involved with a man......they seem to be all twirled up about their looks and about this man.....that they seem to forget about themselves.

I know that my looks are important and I don't want to neglect that.....but I do know now that being happy deep within myself reflects more beauty than anything.....mostly in the mornings waking up and looking at my husband......the sparkle in my eyes speaks more than a thousand words......it's just that that keeps me attractive for my husband. My enthusiasm about seeing him and being with him even when I am having a "terrible hair" day.....

I think this is what truely makes a woman attractive for a man......it even makes less attractive women beautiful.



I want him to find me attractive and want me again, but I don't know if me not calling will make a difference. I don't know if it makes a difference to him.

I want to send him my new headshot pics, but I have a feeling that he would be upset by them because they have to do with what caused us to not live together and what he resents most...my career.


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I spoke with my therapist tonight. Cried my eyes out. She has suggested that maybe I should not talk to WS for awhile and concentrate on just me. My acting, my networking, my finding a job. And if he calls, he calls. If he doesn't, oh well. I guess you might call it a soft plan B.


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Step 1: sleep. going to bed early. be good to me.


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A very good thought, YOU are "JOB 1" GF


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Hi LA,

I hope you had a good nights sleep. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Have you ever read about the Inner Child??? I'm sure others here might be able to help you out with finding a good book or two about this topic.

I'm not in the US and therefore I haven't got any english books concerning this topic.

The urge to send your husbad headpics..........well.....I'd personally back-off from this. It seems to me that one of your Top Emotional Needs is admiration.......nothing bad about that......but it doesn't seem to be your WS top need.


Therefore it will only pressure him.........the same as your calls have. (sorry don't want to come over bluntly but I do want to be honest)

I think that what your therapist told you is correct!!!
Concentrate on YOU!!!

Take it day by day and disconnect yourself from unhappy situations. Do everything possible that will give you something positive to think about. Feed your "Hurt & lonely" inner child with happy things.

It will make a difference for your WS.......believe me.

You have somehow gotten into a cycle that does either you any good nor your WS.

This is not going to be easy for you but it surely is possible. Use all your energy for something that will have a positive outcome and that is the "Wellbeing" of you!!!

Because if you reach the point where you learn to trust yourself and you're happy with that..........you will NOT need the reassurance from your WS.

This is what I find attractive. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Don't send him anything!!!! Ask yourself what you want by doing this???

What do you believe will be the outcome???

He knows what you look like.............

I'd just like to tell you something else from my story.The OW in our situation was very good looking. She knew it and everybody told her that all the time. She was pretty, good body, nicely dressed,had her nails done pefectly all the time, her hair was perfect all the time........everything was perfect.........

When the affair with my husband came t the light........he stopped he affair immediately.
After that..........I/we went through 3 YEARS of hang-up calls, OW driving past our house, and OW driving past the place where my husband works. OW stopped him 2 times in the car just to talk to him.

This was a complete "turn off" and it displayed how needy this OW was. She didn't seem to have a life of her own.

Even though this was a OW.......and the fact that she wasn't in the position to be a part of my husbands life...........it displayed clearly what a turn-off it can be.It was a complete turn off for my husband and fo OWH.

OWH kicked her out of the house an we had a talk with him.

When it came to OW looks.........her husband said: She used to look pretty to me...........but now.........hmmmm......NO I do't think she's pretty anymore. I want her out and I don't want to see her face anymore..........

LA..........I know that you cannot be compaired with this OW in my situation.............nor with any OW. Please don't misunderstand me. You are trying to do everything to save your marriage. This is very honerable and displays great character qualities.

It's just a matter of finding the right way and finding the right direction.

Don't make the same mistake as the OW in our situation. There are so many other qualities that make a woman "beautiful & attractive & interesting" for her man.............

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I won't be contacting WS at all. I talked it over with the psychiatrist this morning. He also agreed that I was correct by not contacting WS if it upsets me so much. I am going to sign up for 2 new acting classes today.

I just hope it works. I hope I'm not shooting myself in the foot.


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Hi LA,

I wish you only the best........ <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />. No one can tell you what the outcome is going to be......

You cannot change your WS...you can only change you.

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Hey your gonna have fun this weekend if I have to drag you out of the house myself <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

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Today I actually feel pretty good. I've made a phonecall & setup an appt with a one on one acting career coach to go over my headshots and resume. And I'm gonna go down to Samuel French and get the Agent/Managers directory. I'm gonna start looking for a manager and a commercial agent.

WS...I don't know what he is doing right now. He owes me a phonecall. And I won't be the one calling him first.


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Hi LA,

you sound great!!! (cyber hug from me)

I hope I haven't been off track with what I have so far written to you. Wasn't meant to hurt you..........

I wish I could also come over and drag you outta the house on the weekend. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I'm sure we'd have a ball!!!

Stay on track and keep yourself busy.

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Yeah, I got the agencies and managers listings and I'm gonna go through them & choose who I'm going to submit to for representation. It will keep my mind on things that make me happy.


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Got a lead on a day job. Recruiter got my resume from a friend. Hopefully it pays close to what I was making before I got layed off from mortgage biz. Recruiter supposed to call today.


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Hi LAsunshinegirl,

I've been following your thread since your first post, but have never written anything to you before because it seems like you're getting great advice from the veterans and I don't think I could add anything.

But I wanted to just say Hi and that I'm rooting for you. I know how painful it is to want something so badly while the other person could seemingly care less. Don't beat yourself up so much. Have fun with SIHM this weekend.


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Hi LAsunshinegirl,

I've been following your thread since your first post, but have never written anything to you before because it seems like you're getting great advice from the veterans and I don't think I could add anything.

But I wanted to just say Hi and that I'm rooting for you. I know how painful it is to want something so badly while the other person could seemingly care less. Don't beat yourself up so much. Have fun with SIHM this weekend.


Thank you. Yes, I'm getting great advice from everyone here & I've got my fingers crossed that things will work out.

Thank you for your support! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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I just found out that taking a nap in the afternoon is really great. Gonna have to do it more often.


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Have not spoken to WS in over a week. And I feel pretty good. I look at his pictures though. But I am trying not to over analyze and just be relaxed and calm.


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I went to see therapy lady again today. I think she is really helping. I feel more confident about everyday things. Still just working on me. Not going to worry about WS for awhile. I wonder when he'll contact me next?


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LA,

good to hear that you're sticking to your plan. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Get him thinking..............get him wondering.........

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