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bigkahuna #1960116 11/13/07 12:39 PM
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Big K - Doctors don't know anything.

Old movies are in black and white. Dreams are in color. Mine are, anyway.

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Well,

H emailed again commenting about the dream and telling me that he did get some rest but was in a rush to get his data to his attorney, etc.

He said he would still look for that webcam for my mom that he said he was going to get her before the crap hit the fan on 10/30.

I didn't comment on anything about his attorney this email or last email.

I guess he'll probably want everything to be over and done with so he can move on with or without OW.

I know they talked about it during the A, getting rid of me and OWH.

I'm trying to prepare my brain for this scenario. My brain doesn't want to hear it. My heart doesn't want to hear it. I will still do Plan A until I can't. I don't know when I should go to Plan B.

This sucks.

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I guess he'll probably want everything to be over and done with so he can move on with or without OW.

I know they talked about it during the A, getting rid of me and OWH.

What's this? This is not GODDESS talk. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Mimi, where are you? Charlotte, you've only begun Plan A. Please give it a little time.


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I'll try princess meggy. Thanks. The whole temp hearing and having to file for a D and now H getting his attorney have me feeling a little down.

I have to go fax contact info for OW & OWH after lunch. I don't know how long it takes to get a subpoena, but I hope it's a fast process.

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Yeah, give it a little time. Time to be divine, appealing, and remain steadfast and gorgeous.

He's still fogbound. Memories of his talks abut "getting on with their lives" are still ringing in his head. He hasn't gotten it that those dreams were just that - silly fantasy dreams shared between two infidels. They had nothign to do with real life.

It will hit him, and he will have your letter. He's going to have to read the instruction manual you wrote for him, the instruction manual on how to repair things. Wait. He's still sailing along on fantasy and false bravado.

He's going to re-read that letter. And the penny will drop. He's going to "get it" that going forward with an attorney to divorce you is not what he wants. The optical illusion will switch, reverse, and he'll "get it."

He's like a rat in a maze, he'll stumble on the pathway home eventually.

Charlotte, you have come so far. You are very brave.

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Yeah, what Bellevue said.


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I guess he'll probably want everything to be over and done with so he can move on with or without OW. I know they talked about it during the A, getting rid of me and OWH.

Rid?? As in Divorce? Or something more heinous??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

When people are under the influence of controlled substances MB doesn't work, have you read that part from Harley?

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Well, I guess I'd better quit right now, then, cal.

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Hi Charlotte,

What is this letter you gave to WH? I wonder if you could post it or email it to me? Do you think it would work on my WW?

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Hi Vladie,

Send me your email to: [Email][/Email]

Hopefully yahoo mail is working today, it keeps going in and out.

I'll send you a copy of the letter.

Charlotte

P.S.) let me know when you have my address so I can remove it. Thanks!

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Ok charlotte thanks


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myfamilyilove #1960127 11/14/07 09:49 AM
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I was kidding about quitting, you know.

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Quit what?

The marriage?

I was simply sharing something that Harley considers VERY important...


Here it is...in his own words...

One of the first things I do when couples see me for counseling is to evaluate them for drug and alcohol addiction. If I feel that either is addicted at the time, I refer the addicted spouse to a treatment program. The Love Buster, drug or alcohol addiction, will prevent them from resolving their marital conflicts because it controls them. It must be eliminated before marital therapy has any hope of being successful.

My job as a marriage counselor begins after successful treatment and sobriety. If the addicted spouse refuses treatment, then I direct the unaddicted spouse to Alanon or some other support group for spouses of alcoholics. Sometimes, I encourage an intervention.

That's what I learned to do after discovering that an alcoholic is so much in love with alcohol, that while in the state of addiction, there is no way for them to consider their spouse's feelings whenever they make decisions, a necessary condition for a great marriage. Alcohol always comes first, even when it is at the spouse's expense.


I can imagine that drugs are included when he says "alcohol" in the last 2 paragraphs.

You need to know what you are working with and that I why I posted what I did.

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Adding the link right to the page...

Harley's position on addictions and codependence

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Hi cal,

Thanks. I am trying to get him help somehow with this problem. I talked about it to HR when I spoke with them last week.

Charlotte

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I am so wired right now I feel like I am going to jump out of my skin.

I was on the phone with the process server, making sure that OW is served AT WORK. We talked about a few other things then said goodbye.

My attorney called at 9pm, (not sure if I mentioned this already,) and he was working on the subpoenas. So they may be served even before Friday.

I am nervous and jumpy.

I checked email after talking to the process server and H had emailed thanking me for letting him know what arrived in the daily mail.

Then he sent the password for our AOL account as we discussed. He said he didn't change it and this could be true because our account was hijacked last month when someone accessed H's ATM/debit card number and charged tickets on an airline that is based out of Florida...and it doesn't come anywhere near Texas.

Los Angeles, New York, and the rest of the flights of this airline are other countries in the general area.

I didn't know about this when it happened. I would have thought it was H. Turns out he thought I was running away and calls me asking me about it when he found it on our account.

We now know that the person who stole our info worked for a check cashing company and stole a lot of people's info. They are still investigating but did refund our money.

Anyway, AOL could have been on that card, I don't remember now. Our satellite bill was and it was behind and shut off because it was on the card. So I don't know if H changed AOL or it was on the card.

Please forgive me if I repeat myself...I am just wacko wired here!

Anyway, between H's emails and anticipating OW & OWH being served very soon, I am getting close to basket case territory.

Anyway, just wanted to share the story here.

Thanks for reading, IF you manage to make it all of the way through this post!!

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You're doing so well.

Is there anything you can do or any friends you can call to work through some of your anxiety?


Me - BS DDay 1 (Multiple affairs while overseas) - Feb 2003 DDay 2 (AdultFriendFinder Profile) - April 2007 Seeing a counselor. I think we have him stumped.
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Hi Dobie,

Thank you!

I feel a lot better now. No racing heart & brain. No jitters and anxiety about those subpoenas.

I got busy doing some stuff and I did talk to a friend for a while. It helped. I feel better now and I know I'll somehow find the strength to get through that hearing next week.

I'll just hide behind my lawyer! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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No charlotte update today.....I am already having withdrawls....I miss her quick wit and quirkiness.

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Yeah, I miss coming on here and not seeing those updates.

Hope everything is well with you Charlotte. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


FWS (me): 38 (EA in May-June 2007) FWS (H): 35 (EA from oct 2005 to oct 2007) DS1: 7 DS2: 3.5 S decided he wanted a separation: October 5th 2007 S moved out: October 12th 2007 S moved back in: November 10th We are working together, one day at a time, one step at a time to build a love that will last forever. Thanks to MB.
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Thanks for thinking of me, surviving and mbm69. It makes me feel good to know there are others out there who care about my plight.

Now, on to the juice:

I just received a call from the process server. OW has been served. At work.

She signed, he said when asked. She is NOT a happy lady.

My response? Well, good. I'm not either.

I guess she didn't realize there are different prices you have to pay for infidelity: dealing with the pain you inflict on others, being a louse, and a legal price. Oh, and lest we forget...your REPUTATION at work and elsewhere...and the disgust in the eyes of your coworkers.

Anyway, that was my little vent.

I'm sure H has gotten wind of it by now. Not a peep from him, though.

Do you think he thinks I'm bluffing now?

I'm betting OWH is eating her words on that one. AGAIN.

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