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I believe that more often than not, namecalling occurs because the namecaller becomes so frustrated he cannot think of anything else to say.

Instead of logic and reasoned argumentation, he looses an epithet.

Not uncommon. Just ineffective and uncool.

We all have done it. Some more than others.

Show me one person who hasn't lashed out in frustration either directly or under his breath......

It happens.

The best thing to do is apologize and move on.

We own what we do. I can't say I will never call someone a name again. But as I age (gracefully, I might add) I get better at not doing it.

But I have done it, when I just lose it all. I've done it once, here.

And apologized later.

Oh well. That's the humanity of us. We are all broken. To waste yet another day, another moment, worrying about how to repair the man next to me - well - I cannot do that. For myself, I forgive and move on. For myself, my own life has been fraught with so much pain inflicted on me by people who were so very broken........how can I not look upon them and think

they need my forgiveness
they are too hurt and pained, moreso than I, even in my pain I see theirs must be more than mine

perhaps I endure mine better than they do, perhaps not

perhaps I recognize they will not rise above their own mistakes as easily, and need my forgiveness to help them up

I don't know.

But for whatever reason, to endlessly hold a grudge, to carry that weight with me

burdens only ME.




I guess I waxed philosophic just now. In this short life, forgiveness is something I have learned so very much about. It is the hardest thing to learn, and the most freeing thing. To understand that we choose what we carry with us, and choose what we leave behind is very hard to learn. Once learned, it is a much easier walk, this walk we all share.

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I believe that more often than not, namecalling occurs because the namecaller becomes so frustrated he cannot think of anything else to say.

Instead of logic and reasoned argumentation, he looses an epithet.


I've seen this too. Things said and done in anger. I think most mentally healthy mature adults would turn around when tempers had cooled and apologize for their outburst. I think of this as more under the heading of the "shouting" category that I had mentioned earlier.

But, there is another form of namecalling that isn't from anger. It's from intimidation. It's from bullying. I would hazard a guess that we all saw it in some form back in grade school.

IMO, there were basically 3 groups in the dynamic.

First, the power-over namecalling group who attempted to intimidate and diminish the Second group of people who were their targets while the neutral Third group of people ignored it, were oblivious to it, glad it wasn't directed their way, or hoping that their presence would not be noticed by the First group.

That's the sort of name calling I was thinking of and what I thought Mark was referencing.

Namecalling done not in anger, but by a cold calculating choice with the goal of discrediting, mocking, and/or generally insulting. I have seen this done when the argument is being lost and the namecaller chooses the namecalling way as a method of extricating him/herself from the obviously lost argument.

Most people with namecalling bullying tendencies don't walk this earth by themselves. They usually manage to hook up with a couple of sidekicks who provide the necessary cheerleading and distraction that covers that loss. So, I don't think namecalling is always done from anger.

It's also done as a strategy for manipulation and an attempt to control, IMO and for which an apology is seldom offered.

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They usually manage to hook up with a couple of sidekicks who provide the necessary cheerleading and distraction that covers that loss
And it can almost be predicted who the next 4 or 5 posters to jump in will be...

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Namecalling done not in anger, but by a cold calculating choice with the goal of discrediting, mocking, and/or generally insulting. I have seen this done when the argument is being lost...
I think that this is one of my pet peeves right here. I am willing to dialog and converse until I am convinced or you are instead, but if a person can't support their position by argument, then why attempt to bully the other side into dropping the discussion?

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The best thing to do is apologize and move on.
But those that Graplin describes will never offer an apology, because, I believe, it was their intent to bully those with whom they disagree but have no counter argument for.

I haven't even given this thread any thought in a couple of days. I don't know if that means I'm bored, I'm disappointed in the low volume of serious participation or if I'm just burned out by the whole thing...

My brain still hurts...

Mark

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