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Hey this might be a first.

I actually got to read the back and forth between FH / MEDC .....BEFORE it got edited. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

That doesn't ever happen.
(not on board enough these days I guess)

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you boyz really don't like each other do ya. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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it's got nothing to do with me not liking anyone.

I just don't feel like having numerous discussions about this topic.

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Nope...I don't think that is how it works.

BestAdvisor got banned (ushered to the door and escorted OUT)...

So, BestAdvisor1 shows up at said door...opens it...walks in...and is banned....(ushered to the door, door shut...<CLICK>...locked.)

BestAngel shows up...door is locked...so they pry open a window and crawl in.

Etc...etc...etc....

I equate them with someone who cannot take "no...get away" for an answer. You shut the door...they have a foot there...you lock a door, they crawl in a window...they will find a way in.

How embarrassing to KNOW that your presence isn't welcome but you still are FORCING yourself on people.

I feel shame for them...and pity...overwhelming pity.

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All the "BA's" dont have a story. In fact no one knows if they have a marriage at all.

Can you guys imagine how it would be if we put all the BA's on ignore at one time!?

Here, I will be the first one. If we all do it, and if more pop up we can shift them to "ignore" immediately.

Soon, BA will get tired of posting if everyone is ignoring the BehAvior.

WE CAN DO THIS! AS A GROUP ON MB WE HAVE GREAT AMOUNTS OF POWER BUT ALONE WE DON'T. LETS GET TOGETHER AND DO IT.

You know better than to have 4 shots of espresso in the morning, Stella.

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two fellow MB'ers are Christian (they are Mormon and this offended FH to the point where they put him on ignore too).

I read those posts and I was dismayed to say the least at FHs words.

My Grandfather, who was one of God's finest ministers, taught us that THAT is the meaning of "judging" others. We do not determine who will go to heaven and ****** by the faith that they practice. It is ALL about choice and we don't know for sure who is going to heaven...we just have "faith" that it will be us (a collective us...not a certain religion 'us').

He also taught us that people can be "stumbling blocks" to others in their quest for heaven. That is what I find him to be.

As always...this is jmho...and why I NEVER get into spiritual debates with people on the site.

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Keeping in mind that all the banning was for VERY good reasonS (plural).


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Keeping in mind that all the banning was for VERY good reasonS (plural).

Most assuredly. It certainly wasn't for giggles.

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FH...

Why do you imagine that********OWES you an explaination of his beliefs??? I personally do not find your methods of asking him to be Christian at all...I too have been disturbed by your continual jabs at him in MANY of your posts as of late...It is stalkish like behavior and it is unbecoming to say the least...

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Oops, posted this to the wrong thread. Here it is, where I was trying to put it.

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Sorry Heart, my net went down before I could find the info you were asking about. I have seen it at least one other time, but here is one place.


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Mama Bear - I know someone else suggested this once, and I just need to bring it up again - is there ANY chance that you are being stalked by the OW in your sitch??

It is just so creepy the way you have been singled out. I have never seen anything like it on here before.
You have been very firm in requesting that this person not post to you ,and yet it still keeps happening.

and then this line:
"Take it easy. By the way, Happy New Year to you, tst, and the kids. "

that is just creepy. You have just told this person to leave you alone, and yet they wish happy new year to you, H and kids??? I'm sorry - but that is clearly stalking behavior.

This sicko did not bother to wish Mimi a happy new year....or MEDC. why have you been singled out?

I have worried all along that the OW is somehow involved here, and my radar is still up.


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tst and I already considered this and checked with Justuss. This person does not live in our state. It's just the ridiculous online hassle. I sure am glad I wasn't dumb enough to give this person my email when he asked for (because that was the only way he would share his story with me).
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Later it was discussed whether this person could simply disguising their IP address. Who knows?

But even if you have only seen a small part of what they have been trying to do here, it is past strange and well into sinister.

No normal person would do all the things this plethora of characters has done.

If you would like firsthand accounts, ask SexyMamaBear, TST, Schoolbus, and Orchid. There may be others that I don't know about, but that is a good start.

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Even with all that, the injured members themselves have offered olive branches, which have been either ignored, or acknowledged with a non-apology.

I would have been the first to believe "it is never too late to start over", but in this case the individual in question may be fast approaching that point.

Sorry, all those quotes get a little confusing, but I have to dash and don't have time to figure out how to fix them. Sigh.


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and it is unbecoming to say the least...

Not to mention very UNchristlike.

Is this what it means to witness for Christ?

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Even with all that, the injured members themselves have offered olive branches, which have been either ignored, or acknowledged with a non-apology.

I would have been the first to believe "it is never too late to start over", but in this case the individual in question may be fast approaching that point.

The olive branches have been rejected, ignored or acknowledged with a non-apology because the minute "BA" does the right thing, the gig is up. It's no more FUN (in a sick twisted way) for BA.

BA would have to shed its skin and be EXPOSED and ACCOUNTABLE.

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As always...this is jmho...and why I NEVER get into spiritual debates with people on the site.


So, committedandlovi, are you saying you can just make judgmental statements of your own, snipe away, and NOT have to discuss the basis of your disagreement?

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The basis of the disagreement is a definition of the term "Christian." As I have repeatedly said I stand ready to say both WHAT and WHY I believe something. If that "dismays you," then so be it.

"Never getting into spiritual debates," or discussions IS your right. But if you choose that restraint for yourself, then wouldn't it make sense to not "snipe from the bushes" and then run and hide behind, "but I won't discuss the disagreement with you?"

With all sincere respect for your Grandfather, believers ARE told to "judge" others who claim to be believers for a number reasons, one of the most important is to prevent heresy from being taught and accepted as "truth." That is in the Scripture and is not "just my opinion."

To NOT "judge" would be the same as telling all who are on MB and who believe in the sanctity of marriage to NOT say that someone was wrong in believing that Adultery was okay or that "God must think it's all right or he wouldn't have brought the OW/OM into my life." Their "sincere" belief still does not make it right, nor would it be "right" for others to keep silent and not say why they disagreed.

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FH...

Why do you imagine that *** OWES you an explaination of his beliefs???


A fair question, MrsW.

***** doesn't necessarily owe ME an explanation of his beliefs, he owes it to God and to all Christians who believe in the biblical Jesus and the foundational doctrines of Christianity that have been delivered ONCE to the saints. When he wants to "endorse" the Joseph Smith manufactured religion AS being "Christian," then he has both the right and the obligation to explain WHY he thinks that way. He claims to be a Christian and is, therefore, as am I myself and all who claim to be a Christian are, accountable to each other for the faith they have and WHAT and WHY they believe what they believe.

"Am I my brother's keeper" was asked a very long time ago. God's answer was, "Yes."

God bless.

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ForeverHers, I don't understand what it is exactly that you want. I've been a Christian since I was a child. In my lifetime, I've figured out one thing for sure, that it doesn't matter a hill-of-beans if someone disagrees with me or my beliefs -- it in no way affects my relationship with God. I can't make anyone believe the way I do. No one can make me believe the way they do.

In the end, every knee WILL bow and the truth will out. For Christians to "debate", "argue" and "judge" amongst each other in front of non-believers just justifies non-believers in thinking that NO ONE has the answers. How is that a witness?

****obviously does not wish to debate you any further on this. Why can't you just drop it?

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Guys -- PLEASE Stop Feeding the Trolls and wasting so much bandwith on this. There are lot of other folks here who could use your time and energy, but they are left hanging because your time and energy (neither of which are unlimited) are going to this crap again.

Use the "ignore" button freely and then go help some people who really need it.

Please.

Don't make me come in here again.
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So, committedandlovi, are you saying you can just make judgmental statements of your own, snipe away, and NOT have to discuss the basis of your disagreement?

I am not making the judgmental statements that I am referring to.

I am not saying who will and will not go to heaven. THOSE are the judgmental statements I was referring to.

I don't really feel as if I am sniping either. I am just making comment on how I perceive you and your preachings...along with your DEMANDS from others.

More often than not your actions speak so loudly that no one can hear what you are saying.

It is really hard for me to understand why you think you are owed explanations about others personal religious beliefs.

If they shared with you, and weren't in agreement with yours, your next step would be to stomp all over theirs. I have seen that numerous times from you. Take that as judgmental...I have read it time and time again on the site.

It is not being a good witness to demand explanations from others. Nor is it being Christlike in manner when you do not accept their choice to NOT share it with you. Don't you see something wrong with that picture?

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TWO THUMBS UP!!!!

Ty PM...you explained that much better than I ever could have.

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Because even when we stop feeding it, it changes its skin and name

and comes back for attention in a different way.

It needs help.

It needs something.

And Justuss has given it a thread - so, here we are, waiting for BA to tell us the important story.

The reason BA is is here.

Which, I can tell, will not be told.

That's really too bad. Because that allows for no credibility, ever. No redemption.

And leaves BA with troll-status forever in the minds of most of us, unless reversed by BA. Only BA can make that move.

Open and honest - there it is. We await the reply of this thread's owner.....

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BA's not coming back here. It's already posting on another thread this afternoon.


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