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Oh, keep those antenna up! It's not just OP's who do those things. An ex girlfriend texted "I'm late " to my phone while I was away for the weekend with my then new girlfriend, now wife. The ex also screamed at my son's t-ball game, "I gave him head last week." Yeah, in front of all the other parents.

Boys and girls, can you say, "psy-cho?" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Don't mean to scare you, just to warn you. Like in sports, it's easier to deal with things if you are prepared for them.

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M-W we were with him going to work, coming home and lunch. Leaving little opportunity for contact. I had a feeling though he would see her yesterday at lunch. Sure enough he came home crying. (he is not really a crier). He said he woke up Thursday morning wondering how things got to where they are. He met with her to return "her stuff" and ended the relationship.

sure.... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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He said you wanted to know its over, well its over. I asked only a few questions. Trying to keep my emotions under control. I had asked him not to do that in person and to include me.

WH couldn't say what he wanted to say to Turd-girl if his wife was present.

This act of defiance & disregard of your wellbeing is another RED FLAG !


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This morning as he left I gently warned him that he needed to be prepared that it may not really be over. He looked at me and teared up and said "no, its over"

sure .... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

When a wayward "ends" the A in person & alone, it ain't usually "over" in the sense that he will never speak to her or see her or email her or text her EVER again.
What the wayward means by "it's over" is "for now".

Their "good-bye" was "alien-closure" .... which usually goes like:

"I know what we did was wrong according to society & we can never be together because society won't let us, but I want you to know that you will always hold a special place in my heart & I will cherish our time together. Good-bye." *sniff*sniff*
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
They leave each other with gooey eyes .... and then, when they can no longer stand it .... one of them sends a feeler contact to the other.

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To be honest this time he looked broken and it seemed very real. Of course I have my doubts.

verify EVERYTHING

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I think all the pressures from plan A destroyed the fantasy.

Plan A increased his ambivalence, but did not destroy the fantasy of the OW. Sorry.


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Now, do I ask for more details about this meeting? Or do I just focus on our M instead of the A? What next?


I'd focus on the M.

PLUS

put a GPS on his car (money is tight? buy a used one. start a thread here asking if anyone has a second hand GPS they want to sell cheaply. Look on Craigslist for GPS.)

Get every password for all his electronic communication avenues.

Place a voice activated tape recorder in his car.

He is no way trustworthy after going against your wishes and meeting Turd-girl ALONE. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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My feeling is one of 2 things. She will beg for him to come back once the anger is gone or she will try to do something harmful to us. Or both.

possibly. But based on MB experience, a very likely senario is this:

Your WH feels guilty that he hurt OW with his alien-closure remarks, and he calls her ... "I just need to know you'll be alright."

Plan A - reeeeeeal good for now - but snoop even gooder <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

you have a good head Tx - stay strong

STD testing yet?

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And keep a good eye on his behavior. If he has guilt, it will show.


It is rare for a truly happy woman to try and take a child away from it's father.
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I hope Mimi drops by your thread .... she can offer you Goddess guidance.

Are you nursing the baby?
Are you eating/sleeping?

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I am suggesting you adopt the philosophy of good Boy Scout, 'Be Prepared'.

Money ~ stash some privately

Mail service ~ get your own PO box

Attorney ~ get references (several)
If you have no cash available, call legal aid.... tell them you are a nursing mother & you need information on how to protect yourself in the remote possibly you become an abandoned mother. Become well informed of the laws in (?Texas?) that can protect you, should you need to file papers if WH leaves you.

Support ~ call family members and ask them if they can be on stand by for babysitting or help out in other ways

I think there is more crap on it's way .... BE PREPARED

You don't need to DO anything ~ but gather information. Think of this like putting together a disaster emergency kit to put in your car ~ just in case.

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What about a no-contact letter approved by you?

What about extreme precautions?
I think you need to be vigilant and not at all trusting that the affair is over. So by Thursday you weren't driving him and low and behold he goes to see her. He does not have the self-control or willpower to stay away.

Counseling is probably the least important, IMO.

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tx, Lexxy is right, counseling is not much use at this stage. Better to do the things to GET TO recovery first.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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When he starts this up again, will you be ready to tell his parents and get their support?

Do you still have your snooping methods in place?

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Counseling is a great idea, its just often a waste of time and money if you don't have a good one.

Why don't you want to use your pastor?

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If OW is pressuring him (lovebusting!) that is GOOD!

And don't discount what lengths she will go to (ie. pregnancy threats) to keep him.
I don't think she will go away quietly...

How did he communicate with her? Call her from work?
How will you know that is not happening?

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Is this a positive step?


I'd say so, yes.

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