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......I noticed the well kept hotties in expensive designer clothes or the perfect "Talbots" moms who appeared to have everything under control and never a hair out of place........ Ahh..that would be me..'cept I don't shop at Talbot's..too conservative for me... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Ann Taylor girl, myself. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> My mother has taken me shopping at Talbots, though. [by FORCE! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />]
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I LIKE DR. LAURA..I think she's trying to HELP women to WAKE UP and LISTEN.. Agree very much. She reaches MANY women with a much needed wake up call. I realize her style might not appeal to the softer types, though. But thats ok, no one realistically expects to appeal to EVERYONE. That would be unrealistic. What matters is SUBSTANCE. I also like Dr. Harley's style. Both are extremely effectively in their own individual ways. I guess I like INDIVIDUALISM as long as it is coupled with SUBSTANCE.. STYLE is not as important to me as SUBSTANCE. A person can have a terrible STYLE, and as long as the SUBSTANCE is meaningful, I LIKE THEM. I guess I just don't pay that much attention to STYLE now that I think about it. It surprises me that others do. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Isn't substance the most important thing?
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Ah, see, I'm not a softer type, Melody. Not by a long shot. I do like a no nonsense style. I believe she SOUNDS downright condescending at times, and I don't respond well to that. That's just how I take her.
AS for the shopping, Ann Taylor makes some beautful clothes, but a bit pricey for me. I shop at NY&Co often, and gap, and Kohls. Maybe when I'm rolling in the dough, I'll shop at higher priced retail.
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The times when I was making my H feel X-tra special were the times that he felt bold enough to engage w/ OW and strippers and hookers. Some people can not get enough of that high. I found this to be true in my experiece with my ex-wh...some WS's just choose to live this way.
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SL, but how do you respond to the SUBSTANCE of what she says? Can you over look style and focus on the SUBSTANCE of the message?
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She reaches MANY women with a much needed wake up call. I realize her style might not appeal to the softer types, though.
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I am not sure how you are defining softer types...
I don't consider it necessarily 'softer' types she doesn't reach.....I never needed a wake up call when it came to meeting my H's needs......particularly SF, AS and admiration...
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*I* had taken Dr. L's advice to heart, My H would have OD'd on having his cake and eating it too.
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Ah, see, I'm not a softer type, Melody. Not by a long shot. I do like a no nonsense style. I believe she SOUNDS downright condescending at times, and I don't respond well to that. That's just how I take her.
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I find her condescending and I do not respond well to that either
I do agree that her general message is about meeting ENs...and I know some woman who would benefit from Dr.Laura's approach.
posted by Melody...A person can have a terrible STYLE, and as long as the SUBSTANCE is meaningful, I LIKE THEM. I guess I just don't pay that much attention to STYLE now that I think about it. It surprises me that others do.
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That is an interesting point....got me thinking...I do sometimes get bothered by "style" and it is usually when I feel triggered about something from my past..... for me, Dr. L's style triggers memories of being talked down to and feeling disempowered.
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nia, I don't think I said that everyone needed a wake up call, I surely never thought it. I do think that she helps many women with a much needed wake up call about how to treat their husbands. I know she did ME. By softer types, I mean the type that respond to STYLE over substance; nice, soft words mean more to them than CONTENT.
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IF
*I* had taken Dr. L's advice to heart, My H would have OD'd on having his cake and eating it too. I pray NOONE saw that show. If they did, I pray they don't remember it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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Melody, I like the substance, too true. It's really just the style of her delivery that gets in my craw; maybe I'm just young and rebellious <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />.
I agree with much of what she has to say about women and their roles as wives, and how we have lost sight of HOW to be good wives (be pretty, be nice, be giving, listen, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera), and what men still like and need from their marriages. I also agree that I was falling short in some areas.
My particular beef in this sitch was her TIMING of delivery of her message. I don't believe she intended to sound as if she were BLAMING Mrs. Spitzer, but I believe that's how many took her comments, as the MSN message boards are full of people, BS and WS's alike, who did not digest what she said very well.
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Melody, I like the substance, too true. It's really just the style of her delivery that gets in my craw; maybe I'm just young and rebellious <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />. Well, I AM the timid, submissive type, so that probably explains the difference in our tastes. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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...........and I am OLD! DAMN OLD! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
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Dr Laura gets a lot of catcalls because people DON'T LIKE TO BE CALLED TO THE FLOOR. And she hasn't exactly lived her advice.
But then again making mistakes doesn't make one any less observant of selfish behavior.
She can be annoying, but its a selfish world nowadays.
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IF
*I* had taken Dr. L's advice to heart, My H would have OD'd on having his cake and eating it too. I pray NOONE saw that show. If they did, I pray they don't remember it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> ******************************** well, *I* have no idea what you are talking about. LOL
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Nia, what I meant by this is that she was further injuring BS's, especially Mrs Spitzer. It really does depend on how the message was brought forth to viewers, but in my opinion, it was inappropriate, and used as a way to sell her book....Selfish.
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...........and I am OLD! DAMN OLD! Melody, you don't type a DAY over 29...
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...........and I am OLD! DAMN OLD! Melody, you don't type a DAY over 29... I love dat gal! **snort** <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Dr Laura was the OW years ago - broke up a long standing marriage with children. I think that colors her advice.
I am not a fan.
Her doctorate is in physiology,not psychology. To me, calling herself Dr Laura when giving advice is misleading.
Me = FBS age 51
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