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Well, got home and found out she had been there during the day and took the rest of her stuff she had originally left behind. She even took the remainder of the photo albums except the two for our wedding.
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Well, got home and found out she had been there during the day and took the rest of her stuff she had originally left behind. She even took the remainder of the photo albums except the two for our wedding. I think she's trying to send you a "message". I hope you've secured your finances. Continue your Plan A, but be on the alert - WS-creatures can be very cruel.
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I think she's trying to send you a "message". A message? And is this one of those "it means it's working" deals?
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Also, just thinking back to a lot of stuff, but I think I figured out that Wednesdays are their "date" night. Just a lot of stuff has happened on Wednesdays.
Example; She drops our son off to me last Wednesday. She previously planned on staying a while for us to go over some bills but comes in dressed to go out. I told her she looked pretty and asked if she's going somewhere. She said she was meeting some old friends and going out to eat. I asked where they were going and she said she didn't know. Now, this is not the first time I've heard her say she doesn't know where she's going to eat going out with friends. This time she followed it up by saying she's meeting them at the mall and then they'll decide where to eat.
Also, when she first moved out, I said she should come over once a week for dinner and talk, just the two of us. I mentioned doing it on Wednesday. She quickly changed it to Monday.
So, I'm pretty sure it's their "date" night. But, I'm not sure how I can use this info.
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I think she's trying to send you a "message". A message? And is this one of those "it means it's working" deals? Nope. What this means is that your WW is not going to play nice. Mo, It is a pity that your WW found this thread, b/c it is almost impossible to advise you knowing that she will read it. I suggest that you either get an entirely different nic and carefully start another thread. Or just read everything you can on these boards and try to figure out the best way to go. Mel gave you some EXCELLENT advice. I pray you will take it! I'm going to post some more excellent advice that Mr. W gave another BH the other day. You'd do well to heed it. I'm going to "tweek" it a little bit to fit your sitch. YOU will rue the day you make things "easy" for her to leave you, destroy your family and devastate your child's life without a FIGHT.
Your wife is a crack addict. NOTHING was majorly wrong with your marriage prior to your wife having "feelings" for this other man. Her "feelings" have overtaken her brain's ability to think logically. She is willing to throw away her life, her child's life, her husband's life, her vows, her commitment to God and everything decent to follow fleeting "feelings". She's a CRACK addict right now and should be instituitionalized NOT appeased. What would you do if she really was on crack cocaine and not "just" having an affair??? You see there really isn't much difference....I'm sure you wouldn't be agreeing to her moving out so she could take an apartment downtown and smoke crack all day using and wasting your families money in the meantime. Would you let her take your son there some of the time too???
Another question...
Why do you suppose it's a bad idea to negotiate with terrorists???
I completely understand why you are behaving this way. You love your wife and want to be a good boy so the world can go back to the way it was. We husbands are used to listening to our wives and doing/saying whatever necessary to keep the peace and restore tranquility in our lives. It won't work this time. Your wife is in abuser mode. She is abusing you right now. As a man that is difficult to perceive and understand while it's happening but you are currently a victim and ACTING like a victim. We want to pull you out of that mode and get you to THINK and ACT like the man you are deep inside. The man we know you can be and those that have come before you here have become.
It's simple....ACT...don't react.
Prepare yourself with your own attorney. Gather information on the enemy. Learn and implement Plan A, then, eventually, Plan B, if necessary. Protect your son from her influence TODAY and forever, if the situation doesn't turn around. Be true to yourself and YOUR vows.
You can win this but either way...you've got to be true to yourself.
YOU MATTER. You won't be able to reason w/ her. She's he!! bent right now. It doesn't matter when their date night is. Exposure is your best tool right now. You need to find OMW and tell her what you know. And you need to protect your son.
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mogrod, in addition to exposing to the OM's WIFE, I would also expose to the OM's PARENTS so they know he is playing around with a MARRIED WOMAN who has abandoned her marriage for an adulterous affair. They need to know this so they don't allow your W to darken their doorstep.
Secondly, if your W is exposing your CHILD to her filthy, sleazy affair, I would contact a lawyer and get custody of him. Let her explain to an angry JUDGE why she is dragging her child out of his home and into her sleazy affair. You can often get it entered into legal separation papers that the children not be exposed to adultery partners. If you are in a southern state, they often don't put up with that nonsense.
Many waywards try to introduce their children into their affair in an attempt to normalize it give it a false sense of respectibility. They USE children in this manner to facilitate their affair. I would NOT ALLOW her to use your boy in this way. Bumping up Mel's great advice for you to take another look at!
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Okay, wow! This sounds like a cult. Guess what everyone, you're right this is THE WIFE!!!!! Now I have gone through a rainbow of emotions while reading this forum. I went to take my little boy to his father's on Monday because he asked me to see him. We do not have a set sch. so I try to abide by his requests. I walk into the house to a horrible smell of dog poop. Now, MY son ran the house looking for the remote for the TV and stepped into this S***. So Im frantic to clean him up and the floor. Mind you this is the sevententh time I found poop in the house since I have moved out because he doesn't leave the dogs out long enough. Probably because he spends ALL his time on the comp. (But thats another post, which would be several pages long). I go to get supplies to clean the floor and come to a molded kitchen!!! This is the third time to find mold in the kitchen since I have moved out!!! That is a science that takes time!! Now to you people that are sugesting he have my son live with him...would you let your child live with this kind of nelglect???? I clean the poop, make sure my son is okay and proceed to clean the kitchen. I get on his computer to look up the best way to take care of poop in the carpet & come across this site. Very interesting reading. I applaud the efforts to tell everyone in my circle a repeat of what they know. And this does include MIL and OMWife. None of my circle or OM new I found the site so this Dreamperson is a real cult follower also, rest easy!! You got 3% of a 100% story from Mogrod1. If any of you are interested really in all the truth, please let me know..Im really floored by the advice you give based on the fabrications Mogrod1 gives. Ex: OM and MIL have not only become good friends, but they and FIL were friends 20yrs ago, before I even new OM!! So, he is giving you half truths. Now I am not saying what I have done is good or bad. What I am saying is you ppl don't even know the half of it. Mostly because Mogrod1 is twisting things to match your rules!!??? Also, he plans to contact the OMW?? Well, shes been contacted and think Mogrod1 is and idiot if he thought my friends would be on his side. She think my legal husband is stupid!! LOL!! The man made up some chick and a myspace for her, has CURSED at my mom, called her and dingbat behind her back and says he loves her to her face after years of complaing and not wanting to help her at all, tried to lie to me (which I see right through), tried to manipulate me, my friends, and who ever else. Has spent money he doesn't have on marrige crap and background checks when he should use that for fuel to get to work. Mind you, he is not really helping me finacially. Those bills I help him fill out are because he wanted to stay in the house. He asked me If I will be getting help from my Mom?? Which is ALWAYS what he wants. He thinks my mom is a bank. Anytime she asked for help, he requested a payment (joking or not, low). SHE, has watche my son through any and all time I work, for FREE!! Child-care doesn't like Autism and it took me 6months to get in in the school disrict, which is only three hours a day!! I moved in with HER,, the woman that has been there finacally for 4 years! What would he do with my baby? Send him to his parents house where there are and have been some horrible things take place??? By the way, his parents work..and child-care is not an option. Now I have 10 years education, traing, and experience with children of ages 0 to 12. He has none, I now how to take care of my baby and I have legal witnesses to verify that. I am outraged that this forum took Mogrod1s head out of reality and felt he needed to get advice from strangers that do not know the history, present, or future. But, I hope that I have shed some light on a very small fraction of it.
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You certainly do not write like someone who has had 10 years of training in anything. In fact you write a lot like Dreamthing.
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Welcome, Mrs. Mogrod! Glad to see you here. So, Mogrod is a bad house keeper..and needs to tie the dog outside. Easily solved. Ex: OM and MIL have not only become good friends, but they and FIL were friends 20yrs ago, before I even new OM!! So? Does that make it ok for you to betray your H? She think my legal husband is stupid!! LOL!! What a cruel woman you are! It's not enough for you to betray your H, take his son away from him.... Oh, no, you've got to belittle him and laugh at him too! Why should a woman who would do all that YOU have done, and CONTINUE to do, be entrusted w/ the care of his son?
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You certainly do not write like someone who has had 10 years of training in anything. In fact you write a lot like Dreamthing. Can you repost your thoughts Mogrod's other? I had a difficult time reading them. The only thing i got out of it is that the kitchen is moldy and the dog doesnt have enough time outside to take care of his business.
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So...... That's why you cheated on him? I'm sorry, but everything you've discribed can easily be handled in Marriage Counseling. So, why didn't (or don't) you go? Regardless if he's telling half-truths, one thing is for certain, you broke the man's heart. So, if we're not getting the full story, why don't to tell the "Cult" about it!
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What I have learned from you WW Mogrod is that he can easily tie the dog up... THE GUY IS HURTING you nit-wit. Of coarse his place is not going to be perfect. And that your facts have not shown anything but a bad look upon you.
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Welcome, mogrods_other. It's rare to get both sides of the story, so please do post so that we can make the most enlightened analysis as possible. You'd have to admit that, with thousands and thousands of marriages saved through using the methods we advise here, it must work. I would recommend that you start a separate thread for yourself, if you haven't already done so. Doesn't really work well for two people to be on one; it gets confusing. So...you don't want to say if what you are doing is good or bad. Why? If you want us to know the truth, please do tell. What IS the truth? What has happened that is so horrible that you felt the only way to fix it was to practice adultery, with your "non-legal husband"? (I assume that's what you consider him, since you call magrod your "legal husband") So what was it? What justifies an affair? I'm really curious. And this: he is not really helping me finacially. Please explain why he should be helping when you willfully broke up a family so you could have sex with another man? I would really like to hear the logic of that.
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Now to you people that are sugesting he have my son live with him...would you let your child live with this kind of nelglect???? I'd rather he step in poop that can be easily washed off, than have him try to swallow it from your hand as you tell him that he's better off w/o his daddy. I get on his computer to look up the best way to take care of poop in the carpet & come across this site. Funny how you would look on the computer for answers on how to clean up poop off a carpet, but couldn't trouble yourself to find a MC to help you build a happy marriage. Has spent money he doesn't have on marrige crap and background checks when he should use that for fuel to get to work. How much money have you spent to tear apart your M? On your OM? Now I am not saying what I have done is good or bad. Why don't you say? You've had plenty to say about what Mo has done.
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Rewrote w/ paragraphs Okay, wow! This sounds like a cult. Guess what everyone, you're right this is THE WIFE!!!!! Now I have gone through a r a i n b o w of emotions while reading this forum.
I went to take my little boy to his father's on Monday because he asked me to see him. We do not have a set sch. so I try to abide by his requests. I walk into the house to a horrible smell of dog poop. Now, MY son ran the house looking for the remote for the TV and stepped into this S***. So Im frantic to clean him up and the floor. Mind you this is the sevententh time I found poop in the house since I have moved out because he doesn't leave the dogs out long enough. Probably because he spends ALL his time on the comp. (But thats another post, which would be several pages long). I go to get supplies to clean the floor and come to a molded kitchen!!! This is the third time to find mold in the kitchen since I have moved out!!! That is a science that takes time!! Now to you people that are sugesting he have my son live with him...would you let your child live with this kind of nelglect???? I clean the poop, make sure my son is okay and proceed to clean the kitchen.
I get on his computer to look up the best way to take care of poop in the carpet & come across this site. Very interesting reading.
I applaud the efforts to tell everyone in my circle a repeat of what they know. And this does include MIL and OMWife.
None of my circle or OM new I found the site so this Dreamperson is a real cult follower also, rest easy!!
You got 3% of a 100% story from Mogrod1. If any of you are interested really in all the truth, please let me know..Im really floored by the advice you give based on the fabrications Mogrod1 gives. Ex: OM and MIL have not only become good friends, but they and FIL were friends 20yrs ago, before I even new OM!! So, he is giving you half truths.
Now I am not saying what I have done is good or bad. What I am saying is you ppl don't even know the half of it.
Also, he plans to contact the OMW?? Well, shes been contacted and think Mogrod1 is and idiot if he thought my friends would be on his side. She think my legal husband is stupid!! LOL!!
The man made up some chick and a myspace for her, has CURSED at my mom, called her and dingbat behind her back and says he loves her to her face after years of complaing and not wanting to help her at all, tried to lie to me (which I see right through), tried to manipulate me, my friends, and who ever else.
Has spent money he doesn't have on marrige crap and background checks when he should use that for fuel to get to work. Mind you, he is not really helping me finacially. Those bills I help him fill out are because he wanted to stay in the house. He asked me If I will be getting help from my Mom?? Which is ALWAYS what he wants. He thinks my mom is a bank. Anytime she asked for help, he requested a payment (joking or not, low). SHE, has watche my son through any and all time I work, for FREE!! Child-care doesn't like Autism and it took me 6months to get in in the school disrict, which is only three hours a day!! I moved in with HER,, the woman that has been there finacally for 4 years!
What would he do with my baby? Send him to his parents house where there are and have been some horrible things take place???
By the way, his parents work..and child-care is not an option.
Now I have 10 years education, traing, and experience with children of ages 0 to 12. He has none, I now how to take care of my baby and I have legal witnesses to verify that.
I am outraged that this forum took Mogrod1s head out of reality and felt he needed to get advice from strangers that do not know the history, present, or future. But, I hope that I have shed some light on a very small fraction of it.
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Okay, wow! This sounds like a cult. Guess what everyone, you're right this is THE WIFE!!!!! Now I have gone through a rainbow of emotions while reading this forum. I went to take my little boy to his father's on Monday because he asked me to see him. We do not have a set sch. so I try to abide by his requests. I walk into the house to a horrible smell of dog poop. Now, MY son ran the house looking for the remote for the TV and stepped into this S***. So Im frantic to clean him up and the floor. Mind you this is the sevententh time I found poop in the house since I have moved out because he doesn't leave the dogs out long enough. Probably because he spends ALL his time on the comp. (But thats another post, which would be several pages long). I go to get supplies to clean the floor and come to a molded kitchen!!! This is the third time to find mold in the kitchen since I have moved out!!! That is a science that takes time!! Now to you people that are sugesting he have my son live with him...would you let your child live with this kind of nelglect???? I clean the poop, make sure my son is okay and proceed to clean the kitchen. I get on his computer to look up the best way to take care of poop in the carpet & come across this site. Very interesting reading. I applaud the efforts to tell everyone in my circle a repeat of what they know. And this does include MIL and OMWife. None of my circle or OM new I found the site so this Dreamperson is a real cult follower also, rest easy!! You got 3% of a 100% story from Mogrod1. If any of you are interested really in all the truth, please let me know..Im really floored by the advice you give based on the fabrications Mogrod1 gives. Ex: OM and MIL have not only become good friends, but they and FIL were friends 20yrs ago, before I even new OM!! So, he is giving you half truths. Now I am not saying what I have done is good or bad. What I am saying is you ppl don't even know the half of it. Mostly because Mogrod1 is twisting things to match your rules!!??? Also, he plans to contact the OMW?? Well, shes been contacted and think Mogrod1 is and idiot if he thought my friends would be on his side. She think my legal husband is stupid!! LOL!! The man made up some chick and a myspace for her, has CURSED at my mom, called her and dingbat behind her back and says he loves her to her face after years of complaing and not wanting to help her at all, tried to lie to me (which I see right through), tried to manipulate me, my friends, and who ever else. Has spent money he doesn't have on marrige crap and background checks when he should use that for fuel to get to work. Mind you, he is not really helping me finacially. Those bills I help him fill out are because he wanted to stay in the house. He asked me If I will be getting help from my Mom?? Which is ALWAYS what he wants. He thinks my mom is a bank. Anytime she asked for help, he requested a payment (joking or not, low). SHE, has watche my son through any and all time I work, for FREE!! Child-care doesn't like Autism and it took me 6months to get in in the school disrict, which is only three hours a day!! I moved in with HER,, the woman that has been there finacally for 4 years! What would he do with my baby? Send him to his parents house where there are and have been some horrible things take place??? By the way, his parents work..and child-care is not an option. Now I have 10 years education, traing, and experience with children of ages 0 to 12. He has none, I now how to take care of my baby and I have legal witnesses to verify that. I am outraged that this forum took Mogrod1s head out of reality and felt he needed to get advice from strangers that do not know the history, present, or future. But, I hope that I have shed some light on a very small fraction of it. See, I am not a friend, just someone giving advice. Neglect? DON'T all dogs poop in the house sometimes? I guess you kept a Spotless house? Send him to his parents house where there are and have been some horrible things take place??? What could your sons grandparents do that is so horrible that he is not wanted over there? I wish yall luck because I think counseling or something will only save this marriage if YOU BOTH want it.
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will only save this marriage if YOU BOTH want it. See dreamthing, mogrod's wife is an ACTIVE WAYWARD...Right now nothing will make her "want it", except NO CONTACT and WITHDRAWAL... Read and learn... Mrs. W
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To assume...to make an a** out of u & me!!!! All of you on this site do nothing but assume & take small words to twist around. This is very sad.
Has anyone asked Mogrod1 of his history with me? Has he cheated, abused, lied, neglected, etc.? Check on it. Two wrongs do not make a right, but do not offer advice to a stranger without knowing ALL aspects of the story at hand. Really, its common-sense.
To Marshmallow...(does that mean you got burned?)
Yes, the OMW does know
Mogrod can not afford a PI, he needed to borrow for the background check..which only shows OM looks lowsey on paper. The man that looks great on paper could also be the one that burns puppies in his spare time. Paper doesn't show the person.
Why should OM be afraid of him?
And thank you for the welcome wagon..very nice while you try to make matters worse by butting in.
Why would you ASSUME that by me moving out, I am not going to play nice. I have gotten myself out of a situation that I have felt trapped in for years..Again, YOU DONT KNOW ME!!
I understand you say Exposure is the best tool. Well, I guess I am my own worst enemy, because I did all the exposing myself months ago. I didn't need any of you to fill Mogrods head with ideas of this (proven) psycho babble. I don't know how to keep secrets, so I guess according to your way of thinking..Im screwed!!
He needs to protect my son??? You don't know who I am, what I am doing, or how MY son's life is!!
I don't believe in MCs, it would take way to long to get the full story out and all they want is money.
I do not say whether what I do is good or bad is because it is NOYB!! Besides, you will form an opinion of me either way, right?? All of you already have. You need to get a life!!
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Dear MogRod's WIFE: You asked: Why would you ASSUME that by me moving out, I am not going to play nice. Well, maybe its some of the things you wrote last night about your husband, like: Well, shes been contacted and think Mogrod1 is and idiot if he thought my friends would be on his side. She think my legal husband is stupid!! LOL!! How can you be so cruel to laugh at someone calling your husband stupid and an idiot when you must know he is going through one of the worst situations of his life? Is THAT playing "nice"?
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