yes, it is called a crime of passion and will most assuredly be treated as such.

The battelfield here is real. ANYONE screwing another persons spouse should EXPECT to get shot, beat, kicked, stabbed, punched...etc. You are messing with the single most important thing in a persons life. I have three dogs that I love dearly....and ANYONE that hurt them would be permanently altered. Imagine how much stronger that would be for someone injuring my family.

The OM got off easy....frankly, he should have been castrated.

The BH is the ONLY victim here. Did he go too far...yes...but only because it will impact HIS life negatively....although I think we will all be surprised at how the trial and eventual sentencing go. There is absolutely a case for temporary insanity here...and if I were a juror, I would weigh VERY heavily the BH's past and the affair in rendering my decision.

Any male knows what other males are capable in the moment of extreme anger. I don't condone killing or extreme violence BUT!!!!! If I had caught my wife in the act...add being Irish....I would have snapped and pounded the guy into pulp. My first wife and I were military and so was the guy she messed around with. Not a smart thing to do when we are trained to do things on the battlefield and then get exposed to that point blank. I would have been facing murder charges!!!

You stick your hand into a fire you know you are risking getting burnt....they weigh the risks and decide to STICK IT in there....It better be worth it.

Uh-huh. Beating someone up is ONE thing. But would you have sodomized your wife? Tried to force her to slice off the offending appendage?

That's just sick. Shows he was capable of thinking, too, and NOT blinded by rage. I don't think a jury will be able to get past that, provided there's nothing to prevent the State from admitting it into evidence.

Charlotte

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Now this I MIGHT have a problem with...BUT, she seemed so willing to lay it out there for the other man. We used to have hookers cry rape...that always struck me as odd. It was more like a business transaction gone wrong. I DO think that what he did here was wrong...BUT more so because of what it would do to him.

Temporary insanity is not something that can just last for a few minutes. His lawyer will rightfully argue that he was pushed over the edge by his wife. If he has NO priors, bet on a very reduced charge and sentence.

OK, I know I'm new to the forum, but I completely disagree with you, Flynn. I can understand the extreme anger. I can, cause I have always told my husband that if I ever catch him cheating on me, me and Lorena Bobbitt will have something in common. However I would never do it. I do know that when i get really mad and go into a rage, I can't generally stop myself. But what he did takes calculation. What you do in a blank rage is throw stuff or simply stab the person until you have no energy left to move. Something simple not outlandish as this clown. I understand the rage, but it won't work as a defense. Not in this case.

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I'm simply amazed that anyone thinks this man's actions are defendable. He sounds like a nutcase to me and was probably a nutcase BEFORE the affair.

When I first found out about the affair, I was furious. My WH had been gaslighting me and telling me I was crazy. The OW came to my home and MOCKED me.

We owned a lot of guns, and used to go to the range to target practice, and I'm a good shot. It did cross my mind to blast the two of them off the face of the earth. But then I remembered that he has kids who love him, and she has a daughter, and I would end up in J.A.I.L., and away from my sons. So I did the prudent thing, and left the guns with my neighbor for safe keeping, just in case I went berzerko.

Sometimes I think that this sort of thing happens more often than we think. Heck, just watch 48 Hours. It seems that every week the case is about a murder or disappearance of a spouse/significant other and there is always an affair in the background.

I have to admit that it went through my mind many times. I found out that the OW drove 1000 mi to see my house, and at the time WH was still sneaking back to her state. It was a little scary. When you don't know the truth, your mind makes stuff up.

Anyway, I agree with B. That was a little extreme. Wouldn't exactly be behavior that would bring your spouse back to you.

And jail for the rest of your life would be such a drag. There was a case here in Southern Cal - Elizabeth Broderick. Her doctor/attorney hubby dumped her for his much younger secretary and really tormented her. So she killed them both.

She's still sitting in the slammer, and has no contact with her children.

Yeah, I've often thought about what might have been different if BB had found MB.

She was being gaslighted to the extreme. She lost it, too.

She does need to be in jail but I don't think she should be there the rest of her life. She's not a threat to society at large. She'll probably never have a decent relationship with her children again. I remember them on an update a couple of years or so ago.

They can't see or understand what was really going on with her. If it happens to them, they'll sure understand, though.

It's really too bad she ended up murdering them. She could have rebuilt her life-she had that guy who loved her. She could have held her head up high in spite of the adulterers.

As awful as they were towards Betty, though, they still shouldn't have been murdered.

Charlotte

http://www.amazon.com/Forsaking-All-Others-Betty-Broderick/dp/0679416013

Has anyone read the book??

The OW's family still has a website. They continue to claim she did nothing wrong.

The whole thing was a mess. He gaslighted her, the young OW took over her place in life, even keeping her children from her.

But while I sympathize with her, she made the wrong choice.

I haven't read that one, Chai, but I would like to.

I read: "From the Twelfth of Never," by Bella Stumbo more than once.

And there were plenty of features on "American Justice" and others like it, too.

Charlotte

DM,

Listen you don't touch another man's tools, fishing gear or guns without asking him first. How much more so you don't violate his exclusivity with his wife. Perhaps you as a woman cannot comprehend this, but there exists, perhaps existed, a basic code of conduct between males just to keep the peace. Even criminal organizations like biker gangs and the mafia have rules against touching another members wife.

NJ

Well Charlotte, you may have given me something to do tonight. I think I'll go by Borders on the way home and get the book. A friend and I are going to dinner first, then to an early movie (the one about the windshield wipers - can't remember title), then I'll go home and read about Betty.

NJ - That is the whole MAN thing. And I do believe it is true. But most women realize that they cannot take matters into their own hands.

Where did this get the guy? Probably in jail for life, don't know if they had kids, but he's lost them. What a dummy.

Yeah, I'm aware of the code. In the animal kingdom it would be akin to urinating on another's territory.

Men don't hold the patent on that behavior, either.

STILL NO EXCUSE for the violence he subjected his wife and the OM to.

Charlotte

Hi Chai,

LOL!! Good. It's a good one. I'm going to look for the other one as soon as I get a chance.

Yeah, I remember the first time I read that book...I couldn't imagine such a thing happening in my marriage.

And MAN! Linda looked SO much like Betty! Dan just wanted a newer model, same make, IMO.

I have noticed that happens in a lot of cases but not in mine. Slag doesn't look a thing like me. And not just because I'm better lookin' either!! LMAO!! Not to mention sexier! WOO!! And what a bore...she's a scientist. Not even doing anything spectacular, just working at that company as a drone, really. She doesn't even know how to belly dance. Borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring!!!

Anyhoo, I better leave now before I keep yappin'!

Charlotte

I humbly disagree. The OM is right where he belongs....in the hospital.
If this man does not have a prior record, he will do MINIMAL time. If he has a record of violence and this was just an extension of it, he could spend 20 years in jail.
But no matter what, the OM got what he deserved. The only shame is, his johnson wasn't actually removed.

MEDC - I can't believe that you are posting this stuff as a former law enforcement officer. The betrayed husband was COMPLETELY wrong.

And I would be willing to bet that the husband DOES have a record. Sodomy speaks of a lack of respect for women.

I can tell you as a former LEO...and hopefully a soon to be active LEO again...police are not bothered all that much when justice is handed out to those that deserve it.

I wouldn't bet that he has a past record...I am open to it though. But as far as the OM goes, I stand by him getting what he deserved. EVERY OM should fear that type of response.