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This is good read on Obama's father political leanings. I dont even imagine for one second the Dems would be brazen enough to do this
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=303952499910291

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"What is more important is to find means by which we can redistribute our economic gains to the benefit of all," said the senior Obama, a Harvard-educated economist. "This is the government's obligation." The "means" he had in mind were confiscatory taxes on a scale that redefines the term "progressive taxation."

"Theoretically," he wrote, "there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed."



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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9610.html

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But Kenya expert Raymond Omwami, an economist and UCLA visiting professor from the University of Helsinki who has also worked at the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, said Obama senior could not be considered a socialist himself based solely on the material in his bylined piece.

Omwami points out that the elder Obama’s paper was primarily a harsh critique of the controversial 1965 government document known as Sessional Paper No. 10. Sessional Paper No. 10 rejected classic Karl Marx philosophies then embraced by the Soviet Union and some European countries, calling instead for a new type of socialism to be used specifically in Africa.

The government paper rejected materialism (i.e., “conspicuous consumerism”), outlined the nation’s goals to eradicate poverty, illiteracy and disease, and also laid out important decrees regarding land use for economic development. Obama senior’s response covers these issues, frequently focusing on the distribution of real estate to farmers. Since most Kenyans could not afford farmland in line with market forces established earlier by white British farmers, the elder Obama argued that strong development planning should better define common farming space to maximize productivity and should defer to tribal traditions instead of hastening individual land ownership.

In other words, Obama senior’s paper was not a cry for acceptance of radical politics but was instead a critique of a government policy by Kenya’s Ministry of Economic Planning and Development, which applied African socialism principles to the country’s ongoing political upheaval.

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This is the sperm-donor father...the one that had no hand in raising his son, right?


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Never underestimate the stupidity of "Joe Six Pack"...Dubya did get elected a second time, after all.


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Originally Posted by Krazy71
Never underestimate the stupidity of "Joe Six Pack"...Dubya did get elected a second time, after all.

Let me see if I understand what you are saying. The smartest political party on the planet, was beaten, TWICE by a man they said was not very bright.

And now some want to shift the blame to the voters?

Maybe you mis-underestimated him.

Tell me, who had better grades in school, Bush, Gore or Kerry?

I think Bush had the highest GPA of the three. Yet Democrats want to call him stupid, and call the voters stupid, but appear unwilling to come to grips with losing twice to someone they claimed wasn't as smart as the typical Democrat.

That is the very arrogance that hurts the Democrats.

How well do you think the strategy of calling the voters stupid will work?

How does it make the Democrats look to be beaten twice by someone they try to paint as intellectually inferior.

If you don't agree, then fine, don't agree. But anytime I see someone call their opponent stupid, I have to wonder why they resort to the low skill tactic of a personal attack instead of providing a sound reason to support their candidate.

Calling the other guy stupid just means that you don't have anything good to say about your own guy, so you have to tear down the other guy.

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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...s_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student/

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Bush 1206
Kerry 1190

If I recall correctly, Gore had a 2.2 GPA from Harvard and Bush a 2.35 from Yale.

So while I earned a better GPA than either of them on a dual degree path at a top 25 university, neither of them are drooling vegetables.

Maybe I should be president. Just write me in.

My name is "None of the Above"

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I didn't say Bush was stupid. He was smart enough to get elected a second time, after doing an atrocious job the first time around.

Of course I blame the voters. They....get this....voted for him.

[obvious statement]I don't work for the Obama campaign. Anything I have to say will have zero impact on the election.[/obvious statement]


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Oh goodie, we're off to get another thread locked... wink .

Originally Posted by Krazy71
Never underestimate the stupidity of "Joe Six Pack"...Dubya did get elected a second time, after all.

Yup. Scary stuff. And 'ole Sarah is still out there blabbering today that a VP's role is to be "in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes". Someone better tell her that all a VP can do is cast a tie-breaking vote, not to "get in there and make policy".

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Oh goodie, we're off to get another thread locked... wink .

Originally Posted by Krazy71
Never underestimate the stupidity of "Joe Six Pack"...Dubya did get elected a second time, after all.

Yup. Scary stuff. And 'ole Sarah is still out there blabbering today that a VP's role is to be "in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes". Someone better tell her that all a VP can do is cast a tie-breaking vote, not to "get in there and make policy".

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Tell THAT to [censored] Cheney.


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Originally Posted by Enlightened_Ex
Yet Democrats want to call him stupid, and call the voters stupid, but appear unwilling to come to grips with losing twice to someone they claimed wasn't as smart as the typical Democrat.

Actually, that is in fact how it works - like tends to vote for like, so stupid tends to vote for stupid. No wonder European papers asked the day after Bush's reelection how can 52 million Americans be so stupid.

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Calling the other guy stupid just means that you don't have anything good to say about your own guy, so you have to tear down the other guy.

Well, the good thing about the "own" guy is that he's smart.

Since you are comparing GPAs, why not back away from the old and look at the new - shall we compare GPAs of McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden?

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Originally Posted by AGoodGuy
Since you are comparing GPAs, why not back away from the old and look at the new - shall we compare GPAs of McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden?

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Sure, if you have the info, throw it out here. Citing your sources, of course.

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Originally Posted by Krazy71
Originally Posted by AGoodGuy
Oh goodie, we're off to get another thread locked... wink .

Originally Posted by Krazy71
Never underestimate the stupidity of "Joe Six Pack"...Dubya did get elected a second time, after all.

Yup. Scary stuff. And 'ole Sarah is still out there blabbering today that a VP's role is to be "in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes". Someone better tell her that all a VP can do is cast a tie-breaking vote, not to "get in there and make policy".

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Tell THAT to [censored] Cheney.

LOL

I thought the left believed the Constitution is open to interpretation, ya know a "Living Constitution"?

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Originally Posted by AGoodGuy
Since you are comparing GPAs, why not back away from the old and look at the new - shall we compare GPAs of McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden?

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Sure, if you have the info, throw it out here. Citing your sources, of course.

Aw, come on...

Biden is much smarter than Palin. He knows the three letter word that describes what the activity of the Vice President if elected, and that’s “jobs,” Spelled “J” - “O” - “B” - “S”, jobs.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow
I thought the left believed the Constitution is open to interpretation, ya know a "Living Constitution"?

Yeah, but last I heard Palin was not on the Left grin. Besides, few administrations made as much of a mockery of the Constitution and its balance of powers as Bush/Cheney did.

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Actually, the Vice-President does have a little more authority than to just cast a vote in the event of a tie.

From http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_a5.html#Q86

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The Vice President is the President of the Senate, and as such, has the power to preside over any session of the Senate. I'm not exactly sure how powerful that makes him, though the Rules of the Senate do grant the President a lot of procedural power. He does only have one opportunity to vote (to break a tie); and he is the presiding officer in any impeachment except that of the President.

In the VP Debate, Joe Biden said the same thing you said...that the only role a VP has in the Senate is to cast a tie-breaking vote. In terms of procedura, Sarah Palin was correct in her definition the VP's role as President of the Senate.


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Originally Posted by smidgen
Originally Posted by AGoodGuy
Since you are comparing GPAs, why not back away from the old and look at the new - shall we compare GPAs of McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden?

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Sure, if you have the info, throw it out here. Citing your sources, of course.

GPAs have not been publicized. But we do know that McCain graduated 894th out of 899 from the Naval Academy, while Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law.

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Originally Posted by Lady_Clueless
In terms of procedura, Sarah Palin was correct in her definition the VP's role as President of the Senate.

No one disputes VP's title of President of the Senate, which is considered to be a ceremonial title (think Queen of England). The joke is that she said that a VP can "get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes". Not.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow
Biden is much smarter than Palin.

Agreed.

He may not be able to count, but at least he can spell. Last dimwit VP we had thought potato had an "e" at the end. At least Biden won't make that mistake grin.

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That's assuming that any further plagiarisms on Biden's part are of works with no spelling errors! laugh


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