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I will wait until election day to cast my vote. It will be "a first" for whichever party wins.

I've never had a very big political interest but for the first time in my life I am truly concerned over the outcome of an election.

I feel that the economy has over shadowed national security which should always be our top concern, especially in light of 9/11. The economy means squat to the folks that lost their lives in that act of war. The economy will mean squat to me if my city becomes the next target of terrorism.

Obama (who choooses his friends carefully) has known associations with persons that have at the very least condemned America if not terrorized it. That alone is enough to sway my vote. The "test" that Obama will face if elected is likely to be a test of his allegiance rather than his grit.

I encourage everyone to vote for the candidate that they feel can keep our country secure for the next four years. A vote for an unrealistic third party or a choice to not vote, is choosing to allow the other 85% to choose for you. Make your vote count.



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I live in a military town and FOR SURE, the ECONOMY does matter to the military wives HERE whose young husbands are deployed...with one vehicle, for example, often a truck, that they can't afford to keep gas in order to go to work or to purchase groceries ...military wives who have to rely on government assistance such as WIC or food stamps to make ends meet...military families who are filing for bankruptcy and losing their homes...military wives who can't purchase cars to replace the gas guzzling trucks...

THE ECONOMY CERTAINLY AFFECTS MILITARY FAMILIES...


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Mimi, I'm sure it does. The economy affects us all. That was not my point.

I hate polls as they are all skewed but I thought I had seen a poll(s) that inferred that the military (in general) supported McCain 3 to 1 over Obama. Maybe a subject for another thread. I don't want to TJ this one.

This country was built on opportunity not dependence on government, so the hardships of military spouses or other demographic does not interest me.


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so the hardships of military spouses or other demographic does not interest me.

I feel SAD for and HURT for them.

I don't think you're saying that's not true for you.

But when I come face to face with them daily, I can't remain disinterested in them and their lives. To ME, that's uncaring.


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I'm sure there is a lot more out there but I found this website regarding military and veteran support for Obama. I will check but I don't think the military is truly leaning anywhere near 3 to 1. Maybe they were holding ranks right after the convention...but now with things falling apart for the McCain campaign and respected General's jumping ship they are probably 50-50 or 55-45 for Obama...like the rest of the country.

Vets for Obama

I also recall that Obama had a better Congressional rating on Veteran's issues than McCain and had been endorsed by a major veteran association.

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John Hurley in the Huffington Post

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Senator Obama, when he arrived in Washington, volunteered for the all important, but not very glamorous, Senate Committee on Veteran's Affairs. In the wake of the housing and medical evaluation scandal at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Obama introduced a sweeping bill, called the Dignity for Wounded Warriors Act, calling for comprehensive reforms in how our combat veterans and their families are treated.

Vets support Obama because he will fully fund the VA healthcare budget, will bring Priority 8 vets back into the VA healthcare system, will expand the GI Bill to allow spouses and children to be eligible to use veteran benefits and will treat Guardsmen and Reservists equally, and he will comprehensively address the pain and devastation brought onto vets by PTSD and traumatic brain injuries (TBI).

And of critical importance, Barack Obama has pledged a "zero tolerance" policy to end veteran homelessness. The National Coalition for Homeless Veterans noted in Congressional testimony that "We extend our deep gratitude to Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) for catapulting homeless veteran issues onto the Senate agenda ...."

It is for all these reasons that veterans support Barack Obama for president. But mostly America's veterans support Barack Obama because his support of veterans and their families is passionate and unqualified.

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The topic of this thread is voting early. No threadjacking please.

Thank you.

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I voted last week. I generally like to do it in person (has a certain "civic decor" quality to it), but I have a crazy day on Tuesday, so I figured I'd get my vote in and be done with it.

The Prez vote here is not consequential, since my state is nowhere near a tossup, but at least I threw in my 0.02 worth on state measures and local races.

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The Early Voting Information Center has a lot of information on early voting trends and results (when available) by state:

http://www.earlyvoting.net/blog/

I'm not sure I like the idea of results of early voting being given out before Election Day, since it might discourage some people from voting. OTOH, if early voting results are close, I suppose that could motivate more people to vote.

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Senator Obama, when he arrived in Washington, volunteered for the all important, but not very glamorous, Senate Committee on Veteran's Affairs. In the wake of the housing and medical evaluation scandal at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Obama introduced a sweeping bill, called the Dignity for Wounded Warriors Act, calling for comprehensive reforms in how our combat veterans and their families are treated.

Vets support Obama because he will fully fund the VA healthcare budget, will bring Priority 8 vets back into the VA healthcare system, will expand the GI Bill to allow spouses and children to be eligible to use veteran benefits and will treat Guardsmen and Reservists equally, and he will comprehensively address the pain and devastation brought onto vets by PTSD and traumatic brain injuries (TBI).

And of critical importance, Barack Obama has pledged a "zero tolerance" policy to end veteran homelessness. The National Coalition for Homeless Veterans noted in Congressional testimony that "We extend our deep gratitude to Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) for catapulting homeless veteran issues onto the Senate agenda ...."

It is for all these reasons that veterans support Barack Obama for president. But mostly America's veterans support Barack Obama because his support of veterans and their families is passionate and unqualified.


WOW..THIS IS SOOOOO WONDERFUL!!! This has been a MAJOR CONCERN of mine. I'm thankful that he plans to address this.


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NOT "voting early."

My wife did, but I prefer to wait to the REAL day for voting, to hear everything possible before casting a vote.

And I STILL would like to see that tape that the LA Times has BEFORE the election, rather than find out later that what was on that tape SHOULD have been made available to the public BEFORE voting for someone who just may NOT be the "best candidate" for the office.

Each to his/her or her own though.


And I support helping the Veterans in any way possible because we CAN vote because of them.

Also, if you are able to, please support Sean Hannity's Freedom Concerts where the proceeds go to a scholarship fund for children of Military Personnel who have defended our freedoms with their lives.

But unless Obama does a complete and sincere "180" on his ardent support for killing babies, I will not be voting for him.


He has ONE DAY left to be "right."


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Originally Posted by StillHere2
I simply wish this site and others would remove that horrible OTT throw up emoticon, it's vulgar and totally unneccessary.

I'm sorry you feel so vehemently about an emoticon. I feel that vehemently opposed to both of the major candidates who were forced upon me and whose election will so impact my life....unlike some silly emoticon..... :RollieEyes:


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Well, Cinderella, if you DON'T vote at all, you certainly won't be voting for the winner, anyway. And, in your case, voting AGAINST the guy you KNOW you DON'T want to win is what I would do. You never know...your one vote might make the difference!

That is exactly what I did. BTW, my local councilman (like an alderman) was once elected by exactly one vote.

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Originally Posted by StillHere2
I simply wish this site and others would remove that horrible OTT throw up emoticon, it's vulgar and totally unneccessary.

I'm sorry you feel so vehemently about an emoticon. I feel that vehemently opposed to both of the major candidates who were forced upon me and whose election will so impact my life....unlike some silly emoticon.....

In what way do you see the candidates as being forced upon you? They were selected through a series of primary elections. Is there a better selection process that you would like to see in place?

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I find both candidates personally unsupportable. I would rather have had any number of the ones who didn't make it through the primary process. I could have supported a Biden/Obama ticket but not an Obama/Biden ticket. I could have supported a McCain/Lieberman ticket but not a McCain/Palin ticket.

There is NO ONE on the ballot I find tolerable.

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Too bad I have already voted. Someone just sent me a platform I find outstanding! Now that it's too late, there IS a candidate for me!


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I HAVE DECIDED TO BECOME A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE.HERE IS MY PLATFORM:


- 'Press 1 for English' is immediately banned. English is the official language; speak it or wait at the border until you can.

- We will immediately go into a two year isolationist posture to straighten out the country's attitude. NO imports, no exports. We will use the Wal-Mart policy, 'If we ain't got it, you don't need it.'


- Social security will immediately return to its original state. If you didn't put nuttin in, you ain't gettin nuttin out. The president nor any other politician will not be able to touch it.

- Welfare - Checks will be handed out on Fridays at the end of the 40 hour school week and the successful completion of urinalysis and a passing grade.

- Professional Athletes -Steroids: The FIRST time you check positive you're banned for life.

- Crime - We will adopt the Turkish method, the first time you steal, you lose your right hand. There is no more life sentences. If convicted, you will be put to death by the same method you chose for your victim; gun, knife, strangulation, etc.

- One export will be allowed; wheat, the world needs to eat. A bushel of wheat will be the exact price of a barrel of oil.

- All foreign aid using American taxpayer money will immediately cease, and the saved money will pay off the national debt and ultimately lower taxes. When disasters occur around the world, we'll ask the American people if they want to donate to a disaster fund, and each citizen can make the decision whether it's a worthy cause.

- The Pledge of Allegiance will be said every day at school and every day in Congress.

- The National Anthem will be played at all appropriate ceremonies, sporting events, outings, etc.

- Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes but a vote for me will get you better than what you have, and better than what you're gonna get. Thanks, and remember to write in my name on the ballot in November.

God Bless America !

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/platform.asp

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BILL COSBY IS NOT A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT
"I am not a write-in candidate for President. The statement purportedly from me stating that I am a candidate is a hoax. The platform attributed to me (and at various times to Robin Williams, Andy Rooney and George Carlin) does not represent my views and in many respects is abhorrent to me. Apparently those bloggers and websites who continue to spread this hoax do not care to do even minimal fact checking." -- Bill Cosby
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I am waiting until Election Day to vote. My kids' school is doing this thing, "Take your kid to Vote" day or something. You can go get your kid when you're about to vote, take them with you, and while you're voting there's a little ballot for the kids to "vote" as well. Teaching lessons on democracy and civic responsibility. They've even been learning a bit about the two Senators who are running - I assume completely non-partisan.


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Originally Posted by NMDreams
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/platform.asp

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BILL COSBY IS NOT A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT
"I am not a write-in candidate for President. The statement purportedly from me stating that I am a candidate is a hoax. The platform attributed to me (and at various times to Robin Williams, Andy Rooney and George Carlin) does not represent my views and in many respects is abhorrent to me. Apparently those bloggers and websites who continue to spread this hoax do not care to do even minimal fact checking." -- Bill Cosby
September 26, 2008


:twobyfour:

NM, in case you were unaware, Mr. Cosby is a comedian. Chill, buster. It is my opinion that you might need to learn about joking and comedy and satire.

Did you honestly check that on Snopes? :RollieEyes:

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Originally Posted by NMDreams
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/platform.asp

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BILL COSBY IS NOT A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT
"I am not a write-in candidate for President. The statement purportedly from me stating that I am a candidate is a hoax. The platform attributed to me (and at various times to Robin Williams, Andy Rooney and George Carlin) does not represent my views and in many respects is abhorrent to me. Apparently those bloggers and websites who continue to spread this hoax do not care to do even minimal fact checking." -- Bill Cosby
September 26, 2008

oh good grief, she was joking for crying out loud. crazy


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hurray Thank you, Mel! I am glad to see a woman of your intelligence recognize that fact! hurray


I will say, though, that I could support Mr. Cosby more readily than either of the major party candidates. He does seem to be intelligent, trustworthy, well reputed, honest, and honorable. Plus, I do believe he speaks the truth. Can we say so much about most politicians?

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