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Originally Posted by KiwiJ
Sheesh, don't get BigK started or he'll start trotting out the "NZ is a state of Australia" garbage.

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Dat is Right Jen - that is what it says in the Australian Constitution.


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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
BigK, tell her what you told me!!! You admitted you people had STATES!!

Yes We have states, So?

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Yeah, they have states. Makes 'em think they're big shots. lol

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I KNOW they have states, I've been over there often enough, I just don't know where they got the idea from.

I was just thinking that with them having shires as well, that maybe they are having an identity crisis???

and you is foreign, you have weird food, and you have funny accents too stickout


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Originally Posted by bigkahuna
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
BigK, tell her what you told me!!! You admitted you people had STATES!!

Yes We have states, So?

rotflmao

You stole that idea from us!! ADMIT IT, you theivin foreigner! naughty


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Originally Posted by bigkahuna
Originally Posted by KiwiJ
Sheesh, don't get BigK started or he'll start trotting out the "NZ is a state of Australia" garbage.

:RollieEyes:

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Dat is Right Jen - that is what it says in the Australian Constitution.

New Zealand was envisaged as part of a possible federation.

Following the formation of the Federal Council of Australasia in 1885 (a weak non-executive, non-legislative federation of Western Australia, Fiji, Queensland, Tasmania and Victoria) the movement for full Federation developed in the late nineteenth century, proposing that the six colonies join together as one federation of several States and territories (it was envisaged that New Zealand might join). In the 1890s, two constitutional conventions were called, which ultimately adopted a constitution based on a combination of British, American and other models (monarchy and parliamentary government from Britain, federalism from the United States, the use of the referendum from Switzerland).

New Zealand was involved in a Constitutional Convention in March 1891 in Sydney, New South Wales, along with the Australian colonies. This was to consider a potential constitution for the proposed federation between all the Australasian colonies. New Zealand lost interest in joining Australia in a federation following this convention, though the Australian Constitution still includes provision for New Zealand to be included.

This constitution was then approved by the voters in each of the six colonies. (At the time women had the vote in only one of them: South Australia, and Aboriginal Australians in South Australia and Queensland only). It was then passed (with an amendment allowing for some appeals to the Privy Council in London) as an Act of the British Parliament: the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900. The Act entered into force on January 1, 1901, at which point the Commonwealth of Australia came into being. The 1901 Australian Constitution included provisions to allow New Zealand to join Australia as its seventh state, even after the government of New Zealand had already decided against such a move.

The logic was that the Australian colonies and New Zealand had much in common. While New Zealand chose not to join the Australian federation in 1901, it maintains close political contact. At a government-to-government level, the relationship that Australia has with New Zealand is better developed and more extensive than with any other country. Prime Ministers hold annual formal talks, as do Treasurers, Trade and Defence Ministers. Foreign Ministers meet biannually.Ministers and public servants from both countries participate in meetings and conferences on a wide range of issues: health, education, transport, justice, quarantine and many others. New Zealand ministers and senior officials participate, with their Australian federal and state counterparts, in many of the ministerial council meetings which span the Australian domestic policy agenda.

One of the reasons that New Zealand chose not to join Australia was due to perceptions that the indigenous Māori population would suffer as a result. Federation age Australia had a strict White Australia policy and indigenous Aboriginal peoples were not granted citizenship and the vote as early as the Māori in New Zealand, who had full citizenship, and universal suffrage since 1893.

From time to time the idea of joining Australia has been mooted, but opinion polls show New Zealanders overwhelmingly oppose the idea. Even New Zealanders resident in Australia have been unenthusiastic, while for its part, the Australian government has expressed little or no interest.

Manuka in the Australian Capital Territory is named because of hopes that New Zealand would join the Federation.


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Originally Posted by lildoggie
and you is foreign, you have weird food, and you have funny accents too stickout

this foreign devil is talking some serious smack! grumble


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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
You stole that idea from us!! ADMIT IT, you theivin foreigner! naughty

In actual fact, I have NO IDEA where we stole the idea from. But we are a land of convicts and criminals, the dregs of English society so anything is possible.


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Originally Posted by bigkahuna
Lil - take it from me - it's far easier just to humour her and pat her on the head than to try and argue with her.

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Nah, I'm bored, I'll play.


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Originally Posted by bigkahuna
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
You stole that idea from us!! ADMIT IT, you theivin foreigner! naughty

In actual fact, I have NO IDEA where we stole the idea from. But we are a land of convicts and criminals, the dregs of English society so anything is possible.

See? Thievin is just second nature!! rotflmao


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"New Zealand lost interest in joining Australia in a federation following this convention, though the Australian Constitution still includes provision for New Zealand to be included."

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But we are a land of convicts and criminals, the dregs of English society so anything is possible.

So why wont you take DK????

Please take him.

I'll give you back your possums.

and your magpies


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Originally Posted by KiwiJ
"New Zealand lost interest in joining Australia in a federation following this convention, though the Australian Constitution still includes provision for New Zealand to be included."

faint faint faint faint faint

Don't worry Jen, they are just being hopeful.

why would we want to be part of Australia?

Its full of Australians laugh


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Originally Posted by lildoggie
Nah, I'm bored, I'll play.

Oh Boy.

You're new here aren't you?

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Help me save her Jen.


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Well, I hate to leave this little party but in America we go to BED AT NIGHT, unlike you uncivilized foreigners who stay up all night like barbarians! naughty

Good night and God Bless Texas!! laugh


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LOL, she's tough - she's a match for anyone around here - even a big haired Texan. grin

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Originally Posted by lilkiwi
From time to time the idea of joining Australia has been mooted, but opinion polls show New Zealanders overwhelmingly oppose the idea. Even New Zealanders resident in Australia have been unenthusiastic, while for its part, the Australian government has expressed little or no interest.

Well Lil - I can tell you that this has NEVER been MOOTED in Australia - only EVER mooted in New Zealand. So much for not wanting to join us.

Don't worry - we don't want your magpies, possums, DK or anything else from ya.


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Well, I hate to leave this little party but in America we go to BED AT NIGHT, unlike you uncivilized foreigners who stay up all night like barbarians!

Good night and God Bless Texas!!

ok, good night for yesterday.

Don't forget, your only having the sleep we had last night laugh

God Defend NZ from foreigners


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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Well, I hate to leave this little party but in America we go to BED AT NIGHT, unlike you uncivilized foreigners who stay up all night like barbarians! naughty

Good night and God Bless Texas!! laugh

WOW - That was EASY - she just threw in the towell under the ruse of sleeping.

I have never seen her run from a fight like that before!!

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