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I agree, buy the books. Don't expect reimbursement cuz the contact fallout would be most likely be more costly than the price of the books.

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P.S. How'd the game go?


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Chris - I'd say pay the books, DO NOT break your silence with the Zil-creature who used to be the mother of your child.

You are not Zil's parent, in charge of teaching her how to be a mother.


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Being the price of the books is something you can afford, do it.

Being that your DD wants NC with her WM, do it.

Being that your XWW knows her DD is going to school she should be contacting her DD to ask how much money DD needs to pay for the books.

It is no longer your job or concern to see if WW is doing her job, so don't do it.

Do not forward a bill to XWW. You could cause your DD to break NC with her WM.

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Yeah, everyone's right. Sending the invoice probably is a bad idea. Just continue on being a great dad. Wazilla will continue on being a horrible mom.


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Yes, then if DD is ever asked about the books she can say "My dad paid for them."

She probably wouldn't care one way or the other though....


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12/25/06 - Dday - WH promised NC. Plan A in effect. Thought we were in recovery.

6-3-07 - Dday#2 Found out NC never took place and A never ended. Found MB NC promised again, but WH would not write NC letter.

9/07 - Dday #3. Still lying and sneaking around. Plan B implemented
WH wants nothing to do with me

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Hey, coach!


How was the game? Were you and Chuck able to keep your cookies down?

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DD21 finally got a phone message from Wayzilla. “How much do you need for the books?” DD had never approached her about it as I had agreed to buy her the books.

DD called her back Wednesday evening after practice (varsity was at a game) around 7:00 pm to get her that info. DD called me later and was really frustrated and angry. She said she really wanted to give her Mom a chance and maybe talk some. DD tried to chit chat a little at the start and Wayzilla promptly responded, “I don’t really have time to talk right now. How much do you need for the books?” It was a 2-minute call.

This was their first contact since Christmas Eve.

DD told me how much money she asked for. I said, “That’s about $40 more than you told me you needed.

DD: “She doesn’t know it but she is going to buy me a pair of jeans now too.”


Basketball is going pretty tough. We lost last Friday night by 4 (44-48) and were in the game to the final buzzer. We came back from 10 down in the 4th to tie the game with 2:20 remaining. We got the ball back and one of our posts missed the easiest bunny stick in of the night that would have given us the lead with 1:30 left. They got the board and promptly scored. They lost to the same team last year twice by an average of 24 points. Baby steps.

Wednesday night was a disaster. We played the 3rd place team in our league so we knew going in it would be tough. Our best player (3rd in state in rebounds, leads us in scoring, rebounds, assists, and averages 3-blocked shots a night) hurt her knee at the end of the 1st quarter and it may be pretty serious. She was having a dominant night up to the injury. The first quarter ended with us down 14-16 in a really great game. When they carried her off the floor in tears to the bench the rest of the team just imploded. We only scored 2-points in the 2nd quarter. They scored 21. The rout was on. He full court pressed the entire rest of the game to a 50 point win. My sophomores once again looked like a bunch of Bambi’s on a busy interstate.

Practice last night was pretty bad. I don’t know if any of them are going to step up. We play again tonight against the 4th place team in league. It probably won’t be pretty but I know this coach will not press us to humiliation. He is a gentleman.

Work is scary. There have been a lot of layoffs in our company around the country.

Oh, and my car broke down on Monday because I really needed a $600 bill.

Some may remember my neighbor two doors up dying in his home last June. His son and DIL totally renovated the house and put it up for rent. Since it was paid for they wanted to hold on to it for a better market. I saw it was for sale a couple weeks ago. Last weekend I saw the son and asked what was up and he told me his wife (the DIL) died of brain cancer at Christmas. What an incredible 6-months he has been through. Puts it in perspective.

Oh well, who ever said it was going to be easy?

Have a great weekend MBers.

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Chris:

I many respects, this book buying deal went down really well between W-Z and DD21. It her issue, and sometimes, we as parents cannot protect our children from EVERYTHING.

The easy way out would have been to buy the Books. But that just makes W-Z land a little bit nicer....

You probably already had to buy the books, because DD21 NEEDS the books to go to school. Now DD21 just has to wait until W-Z refunds the purchase price.

But this is the BEST PART:

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“She doesn’t know it but she is going to buy me a pair of jeans now too.”

That is really classic!

I hope your player's knee wasn't that serious, and even if she misses a game, nothing long term happened.

I'm really sorry to hear about your neighbor...

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Hey LG,

Is it OK if I transfer posts from your "Curtains" thread to the new success story 2 thread? I know you re-linked it after they were broken in the upgrade but I'm not assuming anything now. If it's OK, please post here (or there) and I'll transfer it today.

Thanks,
Ace

P.S. Chrisner, it'd be great if your onging story of personal recovery for you and DD21 was included, too. Have you considered writing it or there any particular post from this thread that encapsulates it? If so, please link it I'll transfer it.



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Hey, Chris:
Greetings from California. It's a beautiful Saturday morning and we're expected to reach 70 degrees today. Nice.

Just spent several hours reading all 83 pages of your thread. I guess your mention of girl's basketball got me interested in your story. And wow -- what a story.

My sitch is similar. WH in MLC with blond bimbo and now living with her and her 3 kids. We have 3 teenagers all in high school -- a Catholic high school to boot. WH abandoned them 2 days after Christmas to be "happy" after 23 years of marriage. D-day has been one year. Latest news is that this time he's serious and is in the process of filing.

My two DDs are involved in basketball -- one on the JV team and the other coaching a 4th grade team. DS is in his senior year.
WH has always been active in the kids' sport -- coaching, attending practices and games, etc. Not anymore. DD don't want him to.

I admire your personal recovery. Go, Chris! And I so admire your DDs unrelationship (I don't know if that's even a word) with Wayzilla. And I fully expect my kids will have the same unrelationship with WH because of his choices.

I want to grab WH by the -- whatever -- and force him to see that the reality of his actions will result in crap between he and his kids for years and years to come.

Affairs suck!


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DD told me how much money she asked for. I said, “That’s about $40 more than you told me you needed.

DD: “She doesn’t know it but she is going to buy me a pair of jeans now too.”

God love her! DD21 is a girl after my own heart!!

So, what's happening in fly over land?

Take heart with your team Chris,,,,another season with you and they will be one of the top teams!! The team building years can be rather brutal,,,,,,

Any updates with the work sitch? It seems to be an all too common topic on a lot of threads these days. My work is no different, unfortunately.

Drop us an update when you can.



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Just spent several hours reading all 83 pages of your thread.

Holyheart! You need to see someone about your sleep disorder. There is some good stuff in here about belly rings, thongs and Zulus however.

Hi LG. Nope, our star ended up with a season ending knee injury involving both ligaments and the meniscus. The good news is that she will not require surgery and they think she can play summer ball if PT goes well. Tough blow but we are doing the best we can. My starting lineup is now 1 senior, 1 junior, 2 sophomores and Chuck the freshman. We got drubbed huge last week by a league competitor that started 5 seniors and still had one on the bench. I only have seven players left on varsity now. We swing up a few babies but it is hard to get them in. It’s a tough row.

But…….

We won another game finally last night. This team’s first league win in 15 try’s going back to last January.

The team we played is pretty much in the same boat we are and everyone there knew that the team that lost will probably be last place in league at the end. Talk about a couple of tense teams.

The first quarter was slow and both teams played scared. It ended with them up 8-7. We had a real good 2nd and had the lead 25-19 at the halftime break.

Of course we had to make it hard on ourselves (39% shooting from the line!!!!) and all through the 3rd quarter they crept back into the game until with only 12 seconds left in the quarter they took a 38-37 lead. Our point hit a 3 at the buzzer to put us back up 40-38 going into the 4th.

There were 8 tied scores or lead changes in the 4th before Chuck stepped up and iced the game with foul shots and a 57-53 win. She went 8 of 12 from the line! Way to play freshman!

Wow did they ever need that. If we had lost this game I am not sure how we ever would have got them back this season. This bought a little time and hopefully a little more confidence.

They play again Friday night at home against a team that beat them 108-35 last year. Although I was not there, I understand she full court pressed the entire game and subbed in her starters in the last 2-minutes to break the century mark. She’s a real nice lady. The parents remember it well. She may need an armed escort.



No Wayzilly news. Annnnnd that’s the way uh huh uh huh I like it uh huh uh huh!


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Hey, Coach!!!

I love love love love how you tell stories!

I agree with Bugs, enough time with you and this will be a team to contend with.

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Holyheart! You need to see someone about your sleep disorder. There is some good stuff in here about belly rings, thongs and Zulus however.

Can you believe, DD14 is STILL on the belly button ring kick? She came to me the other night and took my face in hands (I knew this was trouble right away) and said "Mom, we need to sit down and have an adult conversation" skeptical

She had all the reasons WHY she wanted a belly button ring and how she would be responsible for it and what she would do to prevent infection etc.

The answer is still no.

"But, MOM! We are talking like adults"

That's true, DD14, so you need to learn to take no for an answer like an adult."

Her adult attitude passed quickly when she didn't get what she wanted. Huff, huff, slam, slam. cry

Darn kids.

Take care, my friend. And say "hi" to DGS and DD.

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Can you believe, DD14 is STILL on the belly button ring kick? She came to me the other night and took my face in hands (I knew this was trouble right away) and said "Mom, we need to sit down and have an adult conversation"

She had all the reasons WHY she wanted a belly button ring and how she would be responsible for it and what she would do to prevent infection etc.

Next time she asks tell her, "Okay, I'll agree on one condition." (DD's jumping up and down saying okay, okay, yes, yes).

"You have to get your nose pierced too and wear a chain connecting your nose to your belly button."

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"But, MOM! We are talking like adults"

"Your right! What was I thinking? Here's your rent bill."


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Actually, I DID tell her yes.

If she had a signed affidavit from her dad's lawyer stating that her dad would pay for ALL expenses relating to the disfiguration of DD14 when it became infected. HE would have to take her to the doctor, HE would have to listen to her cry, HE would have to pay for EVERYTHING. I was not to hear a word or see one bill.


Yeah, that's really a no.

However, she did say she was going to talk to WxH about it.

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At this point, I'd be willing for her to get her lips pierced.

To hold them together.

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You said:

If she had a signed affidavit from her dad's lawyer stating that her dad would pay for ALL expenses relating to the disfiguration of DD14 when it became infected. HE would have to take her to the doctor, HE would have to listen to her cry, HE would have to pay for EVERYTHING. I was not to hear a word or see one bill.


She heard:

"It's up to your Dad."


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At this point, I'd be willing for her to get her lips pierced.

To hold them together.

"Bmomb, Ib fink bmy libbs imfecemebd!"

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At this point, I'd be willing for her to get her lips pierced.

To hold them together.

"Bmomb, Ib fink bmy libbs imfecemebd!"

rotflmao

yeah, I'm sure she heard "it's up to your dad." Howver, she KNOWS nothing is up to her dad.

And he knows it, too.

It would last about one week if she has it done. I will GUARANTEE that it gets infected. She has very sensitive skin and just can't get away with that stuff.

we'll see. I won't like it, but it won't be the end of the world. It will be a lesson they could both stand to learn.

Fox

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