ITA. ITA. ITA.

I thank God for you and tst and your testimony here. A breath of fresh air. You are truly loving people.

Krazy everyone got the memo that you are an atheist and you can move right along.

Dude,

HER adultery does NOT excuse your own. Have YOU repented of YOUR sin yet?

Like I said, moot point.

I would not even attempt to try and show you that life is a gift beyond measure.

You are allowed to believe it is not.

Huh?

Christians are responding to me. They are not "apathetic toward these conversations".

Do they all have a hole, too?

And I'll do so. The Christians can all thank you, because your post has intimidated and humiliated me into shutting up.

I wasn't referring to the hole they talk out of, but thanks anyway.

Yes Krazy, we ALL have a hole. Christians believe that the ONLY way that hole can be filled is by God. Many theologians write about the God shaped hole in each of us.

And Krazy, not all the Christians want you to stop posting.

Yeah, I did it and it was wrong. I should have went straight to PLAN D and never looked back. I guess I lashed out so the pain would go away, which it did for the most part. Doesn't make it right and it is inexcusable. I am much closer to God now that at that dark period in 08. So yes, I have repented, and to be honest, I dont get the HOOPLA surrounding As. To me, if you want another relationship, just ask for a separation/divorce. Then you can be open and date whomever you are interested in. I think the WEAK and INSECURE people have As. Someone that is very secure will just say, SEE YA, knowing they can get someone else of equal quality or better. I just think As are highly overrated. There is no way they can be worth all the pain,loss of integrity, loss of respect, etc. Again, when they go out dating, how does it come up? I uhm had an A for a year, once I got discovered, my H Divorced me no matter how hard I tried to make it right. Well, so your M was bad and thats why you had an A, YET your H wanted to go STRAIGHT to PLAN D, and you talked him out of it. Hmmmm...Something doesn't sound plausible here...Dude

Dude

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THE DAY IS COMING.

All this blasphemy will have a price tag attached to it.



All blessings,
Jerry

Oh great another who thinks they are going to get to watch and cheer when God punsishes who they consider the damned.

It'll be a glorious payback as you sit on your velvet pillow, won't it?

Either a Christian believes GOD sees everything or they don't. I cant imagine they could believe that AND engage in an A. The two are incomprehensible to reconcile. I think they are mutually exclusive.

Anybody remember what we call fog?

Anybody recall the things their WS said to try to justify the A?

Anyone who believes in God and has an affair has already decided that the A is a gift from God. They feel justified in having the affair.

Think of all the things the WS has said...

"The marriage was over a long time ago."
"I haven't loved you in ___ years/months/weeks/days."
"I NEVER really loved you."
"We don't have a marriage."

We could make a list that goes on for several pages.

The bottom line is that during the affair the WS does not see themselves as doing anything wrong, before God or Man.


In order to have an affair, a person must be either a total sociopath or be able to resolve a conflict between their own actions and their moral code. They all agree that adultery is wrong (over 99% of those polled agreed with this). So how do you have an affair and do what you think is wrong? Doesn't that make you a bad person even in your own eyes?

Enter the justification process. If I can convince myself that what I am doing is right and not wrong or that some greater good is being upheld by my actions, then I can act the way I want to act without any feelings of guilt and without admitting that I am breaking my own moral code. For Christians or even for those who might not really be believers but who have grown up in the Judeo-Christian traditions of our culture here in the U.S.,the first assumption that is made is "God wants me to be happy" and that is His primary goal for my life.

Working from that assumption, if God wants me to be happy >>> OP makes me happy >>> God wants me to be with OP is not a huge logical leap.

And for the skeptics that think that being a Christian means that you think you are better than anyone else...

Being a Christian means that you know you are worthless before God. Sins are forgiven, not because God chooses to ignore them but because the debt for those sins has already been paid.

A REAL Christian isn't perfect, and they aren't simply forgiven, they are bought and paid for because Christ paid their debt off. It isn't what a person does or does not do that balances the account since no one could ever do enough to be like God. It is what God does for us that removes the debt from our account.

It can be really hard to imagine anyone who committed adultery earning their way into a place of righteousness before an omniscient and omnipotent God, but for a Christian, there is nothing you can do to earn that place yourself. God doesn't grade on a curve. His standard isn't the same as Sears...Good >>> Better >>> Best . His only standard is like Him and everything else comes up short. You don't become a Christian by birth, by attending a certain church or by doing a list of things and avoiding doing other things. You can only become a Christian by accepting the payment Christ made for your debt.

A Christian justifies sin the same way a non-Christian does, by a convoluted, makes-no-sense, unacceptable, purely selfish road to self justification, which has NOTHING to do with Christ, Christianity, God or any other religious or intellectual exercise.

Christians SHOULD live by a different standard and SHOULD avoid having an affair...Then again, anyone that is married SHOULD avoid an affair and SHOULD protect the marriage. It isn't the exclusive domain of Christians.

If you want to criticize the actions of the followers of some religion, pick one that is based on actions and not having the sin debt paid in full by God.

God won't punish to make things come out even. That's karma, not judgment...

God doesn't forgive because he's a nice guy and feels sorry for us, He forgives because HE paid the debt Himself.

Nobody will get into heaven because they were sinless. Only one Man was able to accomplish that and He was executed for sins he didn't even commit. Anyone getting into heaven will do it because Christ was sinless.


Mark

Dude,

What seems to be at the heart of this is what YOU believe?

Do you believe that when a person becomes a Christian that they are now incapable of serious sin? Do you believe that if a person commits serious sin that they are NOT a Christian, even if they have said before that they are not?

ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
ALL . Not SOME. Not a FEW. Not just the people who are not Christian. Not just......,but ALL

Sin is not "making a mistake", or an "error in judgement". It is a DELIBERATE choosing of a path that is displeasing to God. It is a DELIBERATE effort to pervert the Word of God to fit your particular set of circumstances. It is saying to yourself, "Yes, I KNOW what God SAYS, but in MY particular circumstance, He wants something DIFFERENT for ME. I'M special, different, better.
I'm smarter. I can interpret the Word of God for MYSELF."

This is WHY Satan got himself kicked out of heaven in the first place. This is WHY when the snake came to Eve, she said to herself, "Yeah, the snake is right. I SHOULD be able to eat this fruit if I want to."

Sin is saying to yourself, "I KNOW BETTER. And God WANTS me to know better. He sees me doing this and He approves."

Sin is really saying to yourself, "I am the master of my destiny. I AM GOD."

Sin is BELIEVING Satan. Say it out loud to yourself. Sin is BELIEVING Satan. And God help us all, we ALL do it.

All, whether they are Christian or not are capable of serious sin? If you do not believe that, you will never resolve this. Becoming a Christian does NOT prevent you from having the capability to sin. It actually opens your eyes to your own sinful nature and the woeful condition of your soul WITHOUT Christ. It also makes you a new target for Satan in a myriad of ways.

THEN, IF you do not protect the boundaries that God has defined for you, IF you do not daily turn to Christ for protection and strength, IF you do not continually fill yourself with the Word, IF you do not remember WHO you are in relation to Christ, you will fall AGAIN to the tempter. And again, and again.

Your wife did not do this. YOU did not do this or you would have resisted the RA.

God sees, God hears, God knows. Your wife knows this and so do you.

What do YOU believe?

AMEN!!!!! and AMEN!!!!!

In other words unrepentant adulterers get off scott free.