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Are you guys saying that WS have affairs in order to disrespect their S? I don't think that's true. No doubt disrespect is a consequence of affairs, but not the motivation for them,in most cases. The WS simply rationalizes that it's an unavoidable consequence, BS's fault for not meeting ENs etc, or just that the payoff for them is worth the cost to the BS.
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I kind of see it as just another aspect of entitlement. "This is my bed, and I'll do whatever I want in it." Not necessarily meant as a slap in the face of the BS, just another example of overwhelming selfishness. I don't think it's anything more than simple logistics.
Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW) D-Day August 2005 Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23 Empty Nesters. Fully Recovered.
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Are you guys saying that WS have affairs in order to disrespect their S? I don't think that's true. No doubt disrespect is a consequence of affairs, but not the motivation for them,in most cases. The WS simply rationalizes that it's an unavoidable consequence, BS's fault for not meeting ENs etc, or just that the payoff for them is worth the cost to the BS. THE BS is not even a factor. The WS does not consider the COST at all - not the cost to them for starters much less the COST to the BS. You guys are way overthinking this. When a WS embarks on an affair they do not consider the BS at all - it's all about THEM doncha know.
Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW) D-Day August 2005 Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23 Empty Nesters. Fully Recovered.
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I don't think it's anything more than simple logistics. This seems to reduce their actions all of them, to mere stimulus and optimal response. This appears to say adulterers are no longer human. It says they are no more than automatons responding to a hardwired program. If defiling the marriage bed is just another logical choice by adulterers, the logical extension is they should not be held responsible for any of their adulterous actions whatsoever. Your argument reduces to: they may be guilty, but they are not culpable.Your argument implies adulterers, even if they kill the OP’s spouse, say, are simply victims of evolutionary reproductive programming. Oh, the poor machine, it could not help itself. No. Sorry, they knew exactly what they were doing at all times. They may not have cared, still don’t even, but they chose. They chose every tiny little iota of their actions in the cold light of reason. Although, I might be persuaded to agree most all WS should be transported for life to an asylum for the criminally insane. One preferably located on Mars. eta: Wait. That would irk 2long. Let's make it Venus. Venus seems more appropriate anyway. eeta: And not just becasue Venus is as hot as he11.
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"An ethical man knows it is wrong to cheat on his wife. A moral man will not actually do it." ~ Ducky
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I don't think it's anything more than simple logistics. This seems to reduce their actions all of them, to mere stimulus and optimal response. This appears to say adulterers are no longer human. It says they are no more than automatons responding to a hardwired program. If defiling the marriage bed is just another logical choice by adulterers, the logical extension is they should not be held responsible for any of their adulterous actions whatsoever. Your argument reduces to: they may be guilty, but they are not culpable.Your argument implies adulterers, even if they kill the OP’s spouse, say, are simply victims of evolutionary reproductive programming. Oh, the poor machine, it could not help itself. No. Sorry, they knew exactly what they were doing at all times. They may not have cared, still don’t even, but they chose. They chose every tiny little iota of their actions in the cold light of reason. Although, I might be persuaded to agree most all WS should be transported for life to an asylum for the criminally insane. One preferably located on Mars. eta: Wait. That would irk 2long. Let's make it Venus. Venus seems more appropriate anyway. eeta: And not just becasue Venus is as hot as he11. Incredibly long bow you draw Aphelion. I totally disagree with you which I am sure will make both of us far happier.
Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW) D-Day August 2005 Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23 Empty Nesters. Fully Recovered.
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I totally disagree with you which I am sure will make both of us far happier. Man, you had me worried. I was getting genuinely concerned. You do realize, do you not, adulterers (and spouses in general) as robots is at the very root of MB methods. ENs : Meet their ENs assiduously and always or the adulterer will adult. They won’t even be able to help it when they do it, and they won’t be able to help all that they subsequently do, even up to [ fill in the blank]. You are married to a hard-wired (an MB quote, no less) robot, all they respond to are EN inputs. Don’t get sick; don’t get old; don’t even take a breath; just meet ENs. Or else!
"Never forget that your pain means nothing to a WS." ~Mulan
"An ethical man knows it is wrong to cheat on his wife. A moral man will not actually do it." ~ Ducky
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When an eel lunges out And it bites off your snout Thats a moray ~DS
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I totally disagree with you which I am sure will make both of us far happier. Man, you had me worried. I was getting genuinely concerned. You do realize, do you not, adulterers (and spouses in general) as robots is at the very root of MB methods. ENs : Meet their ENs assiduously and always or the adulterer will adult. They won’t even be able to help it when they do it, and they won’t be able to help all that they subsequently do, even up to [ fill in the blank]. You are married to a hard-wired (an MB quote, no less) robot, all they respond to are EN inputs. Don’t get sick; don’t get old; don’t even take a breath; just meet ENs. Or else! Aphelion it is no surprise to me your marriage has never recovered with attitudes like this.
Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW) D-Day August 2005 Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23 Empty Nesters. Fully Recovered.
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They chose every tiny little iota of their actions in the cold light of reason. They chose their every action in the heat of passion, not the cold light of reason.
Me: 41, INFP Her: 46, ESFJ Married 6/95 B-G Twins 4 yrs recovered from serious neglect on my part. So happy together!
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"You are married to a hard-wired (an MB quote, no less) robot, all they respond to are EN inputs. Don’t get sick; don’t get old; don’t even take a breath; just meet ENs. Or else!"
Aph, you're cracking me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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