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I guess this isn't the time to bring up mad cow?    
 I watch, and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top.
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I guess this isn't the time to bring up mad cow?   I wouldn't, you might get moooooooooore than you bargained for! And I'm supposed to fly from TX to CA on Sunday.  Wheee. 
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I guess my question now is this - the CDC and local gov is telling folks to stay home if they have flu symptoms, and not to expose others or swamp the medical facilities. However, the anti flu drugs must be given within 2 days. Hmmmm. 
 So if a person does the recommended thing and stays home, it will be too late for the drugs.
 
 Or am I missing something?
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Swine Flu Advice I don't know what to believe about this illness. |  |  |  
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Please everyone, don't  panic!  Over 30,000 people died this year from flu alone but you didn't see that making any headlines, did you?
 The death toll in Mexico has been revised.  It's now......7.
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It's the flu; we'll get over it... It isn't Ebola... From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia(Redirected from Swine flu)
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 For the current outbreak of swine flu, see 2009 swine flu outbreak.
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 * Influenza
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 * Flu season
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 * H5N1 strain
 * H1N1 strain
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 Swine influenza is endemic in pigs
 
 Swine influenza (also swine flu, hog flu,[1] and pig flu[1]) refers to influenza caused by any strain of the influenza virus endemic in pigs (swine). Strains endemic in swine are called swine influenza virus (SIV).[1]
 
 Of the three genera of human flu, two are endemic also in swine: Influenzavirus A is common and Influenzavirus C is rare.[2] Influenzavirus B has not been reported in swine. Within Influenzavirus A and Influenzavirus C, the strains endemic to swine and humans are largely distinct.
 
 Swine flu is common in swine in the midwestern United States (and occasionally in other states), Mexico, Canada, South America, Europe (including the United Kingdom, Sweden, and Italy), Kenya, China, Japan, Taiwan, and other parts of eastern Asia.[1]
 
 Swine flu is rare in humans. People who work with swine, especially people with intense exposures, are at risk of catching swine influenza if the swine carry a strain able to infect humans. However, these strains infrequently circulate between humans as SIV rarely mutates into a form able to pass easily from human to human. In humans, the symptoms of swine flu are similar to those of influenza and of influenza-like illness in general, namely chills, fever, sore throat, muscle pains, severe headache, coughing, weakness and general discomfort.
 
 The 2009 flu outbreak in humans that is widely known as "swine flu" apparently is not due to a swine influenza virus. It is due to a new strain of influenza A virus subtype H1N1 that derives from one strain of human influenza virus, one strain of avian influenza virus, and two separate strains of swine influenza virus. The origins of this new strain are unknown, and the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) reports that this strain has not been isolated in swine.[3] It passes with apparent ease from human to human, an ability attributed to an as-yet unidentified mutation.[4] The strain in most cases causes only mild symptoms and the infected person makes a full recovery without requiring medical attention and without the use of antiviral medicines.[5]
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I am soooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of this already.Everyone with the sniffles wants to come in and get checked.
 
 I ask:
 
 How high is your fever?
 If they ain't got one I say "STAY HOME"
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You're probably more likely to be killed in a car wreck than to even catch the flu....any flu....not just this one....
 If they don't have a catastrophy/dilemna to report, then the media giants can't charge their advertisers large fees.  We may have this 'pandemic' so Rupert Murdoch or Ted Turner or someone can make some money selling newspaper or internet ads.
 
 If you don't feel good, stay home.
 
 
 
 Hey, what is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic?
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So I have avoided this thread because once I go into rant mode...... We have just got back from church and were greeted with a sign saying we must use hand sanitiser to even enter the room. I used it but went to the bathroom to wash it off (allergies) Then the pastors wife stood up and said how it was for our own protection and for us to continue these practices, AND THEN there was an article in the newsletter about washing hands after using the toilet and blowing our freaking noses (because of course, none of us actually know how to do that)         MOUNTAINS OUT OF MOLEHILLS!!!!!!! There have been people checking every incoming flight for the last 2 weeks. People are being detained in hospital. People are being made to go into quarenteen. There have only been a dozen cases in all of NZ and they were all caught before getting out into the general public. There is NO WAY my fellow church member could have come into contact with the virus. I CANT EVEN GO TO CHURCH WITHOUT OVER REACTING WELL MEANING SHEEPLE BANGING ON ABOUT THE LASTEST FAD!!! Not to mention even if everyone sanitised, one cough and the germs are out. And I noticed the pastor did not sanitise his hands between shaking each individual on the way out     Don’t even get me started on the fair trade section of the sermon     
 
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I worked in journalism and I'm a communications major.  You have to question the media and how it presents it's information. Why is the information presented the way it is, who are the media sponsors, and what is the motivation for presenting the information in the format presented. When you have the answers - then you can ask - is the information presented "objective truth". 
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Every year 'normal' flu viruses kill many elderly and infirm people.
 Flu viruses that kill young adults (20-50) *might* turn out to be serious pandemics- like the Spanish flu, which killed if I remember correctly 20 million.
 
 Bird flu, SARS, Hong kong flu (late '60's) and Swine flu all killed healthy young adults.
 
 All MIGHT have become serious pandemics - but they didn't.
 
 Thing is though, one day, one of them WILL turn out to be serious. Nobody knows which virus or when.
 
 But when one does, the same people who're now ridiculing health authorities and other people about panic and overreaction will be complaining that the authorities didn't do enough.
 
 I think the best thing is to treat all potential pandemics as actual pandemics - until proven otherwise.
 
 And that's what most countries' health systems, and the WHO, have done.
 
 On an individual level, I think it's a good idea to be prepared for a lethal pandemic, and this means being equipped to stay at home for weeks or months and having stocks of antivirals, which seem ot have been effective agains the most recent pandemic candidates.
 
 
 Me 49 SAHD; W 41 SAHM; DS3, DS4.
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IMHO,
 I think the media hysteria is just a distraction to cover up the things being done to our country which will really affect us.
 
 Like Cat so aptly said...
 "You're probably more likely to be killed in a car wreck than to even catch the flu....any flu....not just this one...."
 
 
 
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