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And Lil and anyone else -- please share whatever I post with whoever needs it. I'm obviously no Dr. H and, unfortunately, not on the path to recovery, so my comments may not be quite MB.

The reality is that this is what I'm living today, and I will truthfully share it in exchange for advice and support.

That's what friends do.


M 25 yrs, 3 teens
Dday 12/07
5ish False Recoveries (all in 2008)
12/08 WH moves in w/OW, her kids
Plan B/D/FU -- depending on the day
He files 1/09; D final 12/2012
"I'm moving on"
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HH,

Keep doing what you are doing. I can't believe D!ck's atty is so smug. Isn't it law in your state that he can't take you off the insurance?

You are right, it can be a full time job. You are doing awesome!!!


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XWH - 57

12/25/06 - Dday - WH promised NC. Plan A in effect. Thought we were in recovery.

6-3-07 - Dday#2 Found out NC never took place and A never ended. Found MB NC promised again, but WH would not write NC letter.

9/07 - Dday #3. Still lying and sneaking around. Plan B implemented
WH wants nothing to do with me

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scan those papers and put them on PDFs that you store in two or three email accounts too, so that if your file suddenly turns up missing due to a break and enter by some unknown assailant, or your computer gets damaged...

Just some thoughts - don't let that hard work get lost for anything!

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Do not let D!ck ruin things even more now.

I agree with what others are saying, make copies of things and email the proof to yourself on other accounts, etc...

I know this seems odd, but it's my ADD kicking in.

To paraphrase Walter... "Jump out of bed, on your menstrual cycle and RUN D!CK'S butt OVER!"


One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger

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lyrics from see Jane run (modified) -

[censored] and HH don't talk anymore, HH lays awake
Wishin' it could be like it was before
Finally one night, she got tough
[censored] came home, and she was packin' his stuff

See [censored] run, see HH cry
He's standin' in the street with his hands in the air
Goin' why HH, why
He don't look back, she's seen enough
Close the book, the story's done, see [censored] run

HH's tore up, deep down inside
[censored] feels depressed, there is a tear in his bloated blue eyes
Red taillights, fade out of sight
The hoe's puppy's in the back, he's just along for the ride

See [censored] run, see [censored] cry
He's standin' in the street with his hands in the air
Goin' why HH, why
She don't look back, she's had enough
Close the book, the story's done, see HH stand tall

See [censored] run, see HH dry her tears
He's standin' in the street with his hands in the air
Goin' where did all my money go HH, why
She don't look back, she's seen enough
Close the book, the story's done, see HH laugh

Yeah, close the book, the story's done
See HH smile, oh see HH smile, as [censored] falls in the mud





Me 55, XWH 53, M 22 years
D17, D30
alien replaces my husband "I'm not happy" -7/08
Discover OW-8/08 (his direct report and I work there also)
H moves out 10/1/08, confront Ow 10/28/08
Plan B 1/09
D final 12/09

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Change green eyes for blue. Appropriate words. Thanks, Hope.

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Anything new to report, HH?


One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger

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Not much. Just knee deep in financial stuff today. Worked on paperwork requested by my attorney. I dropped it by this afternoon, signed a few forms, and will wait for the word on our request to modify support so D!ck pays more.

I had dinner with D!ck's parents tonight. They are pushing me to keep up the pressure on him. I wish he would just come clean, say he's working on a way to make good on the money, and try to iron out a settlement.

But I'm dreaming. Everything out of D!ck's mouth and texts have been mean and vindictive and blaming everyone but himself for the mess he's in. He's even got his attorney saying that I'm the one blowing through the money. What a joke! I'm the most frugal of people. OK -- I did spend over $17,000 in a few days -- but that was just FUN. And -- and -- the majority went to pay the kids tuition in which D!ck signed the contract with the school then refused to pay.

I'm going to relax for the rest of the night and watch Top Chef on Bravo. Did I mention that I love, love, love that program?

And it's nice to hear from you, Karmasrose. I was thinking about you and hoping you'd be back after the site crash. You have such a great view on topics. And, I swear, some times I think of you when D!ck does something particularly outrageous and I think -- boy, Karmasrose is going to LOVE hearing this.

I think your driving the bus in my direction. D!ck is practically lying in the street just waiting for you to run him over. He's making himself an easy target. You might need to honk just to make it a sport. Sad, but true.


M 25 yrs, 3 teens
Dday 12/07
5ish False Recoveries (all in 2008)
12/08 WH moves in w/OW, her kids
Plan B/D/FU -- depending on the day
He files 1/09; D final 12/2012
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A great view? I'm just particularly vengeful...and an entropy fan especially when it involves WSs and their OPs.

It's nice to know you think of me because I really do love it when I hear about your WS doing something else that is crazy and he is coming apart at the seams...

You: Nooo

Your WH: dramaqueen

You: stickout


One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger

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Not to be a confucious or anything....but saw this on a church sign...."The one who Angers you, controls you".....it got to me !! GF


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HH must be controlling her WH then.


One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger

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Interesting that you would say that. I don't really feel anger toward WH today. I feel sorry for him. I sense that he's in a world of hurt and doesn't want to admit it to anyone. He chose this path and Gosh Darn he's staying on this path. He's not going to ask for directions.

As for me asking for more support... If he'd have just paid what was due when it was due, then I wouldn't have pursued this so eagerly. There is no reasoning with him. Both his mother and father tried to get him to pay the balance and he flat out refused.

He is very angry toward me. Me... who's biggest crime was loving him, being a good wife to him, and trying to get him to end the affair for a year. When he left he said "Just let me go." I'm letting him go....and letting him fall.

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Yes, I meant he is very angry at you therefore you are controlling him. :P

And he needs to fall, so badly.


One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger

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Got it. For the first time in FOREVER I'm controlling WH. And he's such a stubborn fool. He fails to see that the only way out of this mess is through me. Old HH would have been a push over. New HH is not.

Yep, he needs to fall badly. It's up to the law now.

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He makes me think of a character from a videogame I've played.

The man's name is Manfred von Karma in the game. He is very used to getting his way and through underhanded tactics has a perfect prosecution record.

When confronted with evidence, REAL evidence, he attacks. (You that is, and your assistant in the game) He screams, honestly, when you finally beat him.

A tantrum if I ever saw one.

Anyway, D!ck's going to turn out like Karma, he'll scream and attack and he'll still lose.

The judge will make sure of that.


One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger

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entropy
Karma, knock off the fancy words. Let's see what does this mean...

en�tro�py (ntr-p)
n. pl. en�tro�pies
1. Symbol S For a closed thermodynamic system, a quantitative measure of the amount of thermal energy not available to do work.
2. A measure of the disorder or randomness in a closed system.
3. A measure of the loss of information in a transmitted message.
4. The tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity.
5. Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society.

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A great view? I'm just particularly vengeful...and an entropy fan especially when it involves WSs and their OPs.

I don't understand? doh2


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Number 5 is the meaning I am using.

Deterioration.


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Originally Posted by Holyheart
Got it. For the first time in FOREVER I'm controlling WH. And he's such a stubborn fool. He fails to see that the only way out of this mess is through me. Old HH would have been a push over. New HH is not.

Yep, he needs to fall badly. It's up to the law now.

Holy I am absolutely one of your biggest fans on how you have handled stuff. However, I would ask you to reconsider this statement that you said. "He fails to see that the only way out of this mess if through me. Holy, the only way out of this mess is through G-d. Mark constantly got me to understand that G-d wants to have a relationship with all of us. Clearly D$ck doesn't today and G-d will let us wander until WE come to our knees to HIM. Not our spouse, etc.

Once D$ck seeks to make it right with G-d, then who knows what the future holds. I'm sure I'm not saying this correctly at all, but I have to speak from my heart. I hope you can forgive me.


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Plan A 9 months, DARK Plan B 3-17-08 until 3-2-09
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Originally Posted by karmasrose
Number 5 is the meaning I am using.

Deterioration.

Gotcha, thank you. faint


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Queenie -- I totally, totally agree with you. Once he's straight with God, then he can make it right with others. Got it.

I guess I was thinking about the current mess... the short support payment. If he had just said that he didn't have the money, or the money would be there on this day or we need to talk about the amount. But he chose the path of anger and arrogance and a tantrum.

Really... back to your first statement... it doesn't really matter which mess or the size of the mess...

ALL PATHS GO THROUGH GOD AND HIS MERCY.

I can't fix D!ck... only God can. I just need to pray for him which has become very difficult lately.


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