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>People blurt out their true thoughts when they are pissed.
Respectfully, Zel, but bullchit.
People blurt out things that they THINK will hurt the most when pissed. Once the filter is off by way of anger or drink, their true thoughts come out, IMO. Often, they want to retract their stuff once faced with the fallout. This was my expierience with my drunken, litigator dad. He would say what he felt to be true about me, reducing a child to tears almost every night for years. It was such a mismatch, the Harvard Lawyer against a 10 year old. Thank God I punched his lights out when I got older. Then, one gets to hear their attempts to distance themselves from reponsibility for their words. It was the alcohol, or the fog or whatever. I'd prefer they just be honest. Then, at least, you would know where you stand. Zelmo, the words of a DRUNK are not truth...As a 10 year old child, I understand that you didn't know that... Waywards LIE...about it ALL...There are no truths to wayward spew... Mrs. W
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>They must be lousy people to begin with in order to take that first step.
Or broken.
I never had to take the Kobayashi Maru test until now. What do you think of my solution?O'hana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten. My Story Recovered!
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Yeah.
I asked.
A few days after D-day.
Yeah.
H said "Yes, it was."
If he'd said, "No.", I would have known he was lying.
Why?
Because he risked everything for it. Why not start a thread and ASK? I bet not ONE fWW on here will say they said that, NONE. BREAK THIS B! DUDE Pay up Jack!! 
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Yeah.
I asked.
A few days after D-day.
Yeah.
H said "Yes, it was."
If he'd said, "No.", I would have known he was lying.
Why?
Because he risked everything for it. Why not start a thread and ASK? I bet not ONE fWW on here will say they said that, NONE. BREAK THIS B! DUDE Pay up Jack!!
Stop dancing.
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I am not a FWW.
Stop dancing. No, I was refering to your FWH. I am applying this to both sexes, not just FWW's Can I go back to dancing?
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I am not a FWW.
Stop dancing. No, I was refering to your FWH. I am applying this to both sexes, not just FWW's Can I go back to dancing?
 hmmmmmm
Are you a decent dancer?
Or, are you a hack Gack?
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Anyone that CRUEL ON HERE? DUDE Words from a wayward are MEANINGLESS... That marriage is still VERY recoverable... Mrs. W I'd tell them the SIGNED DIVORCE PAPERS ARE meaningless...Every BS reacts from the hurt and the pain, so acting out w/ a lawyer, is RECOVERABLE..DUDE
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I also said worse. I told my H that I loved the OM.
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Anyone that CRUEL ON HERE? DUDE Words from a wayward are MEANINGLESS... That marriage is still VERY recoverable... Mrs. W I'd tell them the SIGNED DIVORCE PAPERS ARE meaningless...Every BS reacts from the hurt and the pain, so acting out w/ a lawyer, is RECOVERABLE..DUDE What?
BW - me
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Many a good man has failed because he had a wishbone where his backbone should have been.
We gain strength, and courage, and confidence by each experience in which we really stop to look fear in the face... we must do that which we think we cannot.
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But it IS the best darn sex ever.
As Harley states on page 22 of His Needs Her Needs
"What really turns you on, however, is not your new partner, but the fantasy. As you and your lover plan where and when to meet for passionate sessions of lovemaking you leave the realities of living behind."
Yeah.
I asked.
A few days after D-day.
Yeah.
H said "Yes, it was."
If he'd said, "No.", I would have known he was lying.
Why?
Because he risked everything for it.
About a week later, I asked, "Why was it the best ever?"
He said, "She'd do anything I asked her to."
After that, I donned my cowgirl outfit and became a rodeo star.
It was rough.
It was terrible/awful/fantastic/tearful/screaming/angry/grateful .... AKA, hysterical bonding.
I obliterated her memory, pronto.
H was a messed up person at the time.
Having said that, he had just taken his first few steps towards openness and honesty.
Today?
It doesn't even hurt to write this.
Why?
Because we're working our MB marriage.
It works if you work it.
And, we're worth it. 
I remember being shocked to death at Mr. W telling me that he could also go out and have mind blowing sex with another person...That it wouldn't be hard to be his best self under those circumstances... Wayward me didn't want to believe that of course - my affair was so speshul you know...  Of course now I know that Mr. W was exactly right... Affair sex is a SHOW...Each person is freshly showered, plucked, shaved, waxed etc...EVERY SINGLE TIME... Waywards MUST perform to get their FIX...it's about the EGO stroke...It is NOT about the other person...It's only about what the other person can do for your ego... There is no intimacy or extraordinary care in an affair... NOW... Planned out, special "hotel sex" with your spouse is WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY hotter...both plucked, shaved, waxed...smelling delicious, etc...Same as before, BUT it's different with your spouse, BECAUSE it's about CARE and LOVE for the other person...It's NOT a show...AND you know each other better on every level - physically, emotionally, spiritually - a real, deep and abiding CONNECTION...THAT kind of sex is NOT possible in an affair...NOTHING on the planet can compare... Mrs. W
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Yeah.
I asked.
A few days after D-day.
Yeah.
H said "Yes, it was."
If he'd said, "No.", I would have known he was lying.
Why?
Because he risked everything for it. Why not start a thread and ASK? I bet not ONE fWW on here will say they said that, NONE. BREAK THIS B! DUDE Pay up Jack!! NO ONE ON HERE??! Where is her hubby? I want to hear him say he said such a thing. PS She should not have asked..DUDE
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Kiwi, darlin'
Your marriage is intact.
And, it's great.
You ARE the person with the victory.
Don't forget that.
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hmmmmmm
Are you a decent dancer?
Or, are you a hack Gack?
Formal type dancing, yes I am good. Dance club type dancing.......Not so much. I'd tell them the SIGNED DIVORCE PAPERS ARE meaningless...Every BS reacts from the hurt and the pain, so acting out w/ a lawyer, is RECOVERABLE..DUDE Huh? Oh and Pay up jack!!
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PS She should not have asked..DUDE
What you think I should or should not have done more than a decade ago, is not important.
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Yes, Mrs W. But, I beleive that some people just have those Ep's in place naturally, by virtue of their own innate sense of right and wrong. This is where I view alcoholics and waywards as being different.
Most of us feel the same euphoria and relaxation associated with drinking. Most of us have the same amount of attraction to good looking memebers of the opposite sex(substitute whatever qualitie are your turn-on).
But, those who refrain have something else within them that stops them from acting on their desires. Those that allow themselves to act on them are different, at that point in their lives.
My dad was a mean drunk. He chose to be that way everyday for a long time. He was different than a normal person, IMO. So you are saying that you could place yourself into tempting circumstances and your will power would protect you? You are super-human? Mrs. W Not super human. That is where waywards seem to think differently, that it takes some "super-human" effort to act honorably. It just takes a conscience, IMO.
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Aw shucks Pep. It's true. Intact and so happy. Our house is filled with laughter and I LOVE IT.
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Well, isn't that relaxing? Guess you should thank him for keeping you ever-vigilant. Wonder how he'd like that for himself? Why are you insulting people Zelmo? You do see you are mocking BSs too, don't you?. Not all WSs are unrepenant like your exWW. I do not view this as insulting, at all.
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