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Pep, RECOVERY is WAY HARD....
I guess like in life, we all get to experience it so that G-d can lead us through it.
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Queenie.... a word of advice. Don't answer any question you think might be too personal.
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Well, Vladi, the bright spot of my recovery. Always cheering me on and supporting me. I really actually miss you. Hope life is treating you well.
Thanks Pep, I won't answer any questions I deem too personal. However this has big a HUGE bone of contention with everyone and for me to not continue to be willing to be open about stuff then I'm a fake. NOPE Vladi, no SF yet. I look at it this way, either one day I have mud on MY face or someone ELSE has mud on their face for doubting that my M really was recovering and it just took a different path than what we wanted it to look like.
OK Lil, what the heck is ITA?
Shabbat Shalom Mark and everyone else.
Happy Friday....
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Queenie:
ITA=I Totally Agree
What will be your requirements for having SF with Mr Q?
Does he know what they are?
Sorry about the losses of your school children. Somewhere G-d was speaking to you, and your sponsor. Act on it...
Recovery sucks....
But its worth the effort. It seems that Mr. Q, when confronted about the truth, responds. Keep speaking YOUR truth.
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Sorry Queenie, I just assumed you would know it, being here for so long. veryone and for me to not continue to be willing to be open about stuff then I'm a fake. NOPE Vladi, no SF yet. I look at it this way, either one day I have mud on MY face or someone ELSE has mud on their face for doubting that my M really was recovering and it just took a different path than what we wanted it to look like. I suppose when you get right down to it, we all have to live with that possibility. I know which one I am routing for tho 
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Me too Lil....
Lousy, without opening up a can of worms, I don't have any requirments. He is the one not having it with me. But to be honest, it has gone on for so very long, almost 4 years, now I am just frightened to be with him and really don't want to push it because I don't want to be rejected.
Yes, I think you are right. In fact yesterday he noticed that I had looked at his emails and deleted some of them. there was one particular generic one about becoming a friend with a woman, the interesting part was I got the same one. He talked to me about it and was confused how he got it. I actually deleted it before we talked. However, upon further thinking I realized that cleaning up his email wasn't my job nor really any of my business, so I told him while I was not sorry that I check his email on a regular basis. I was sorry for deleting things without asking him first. He actually said that wasn't a problem at all and went to work.
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how could he tell you had deleted some?
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because they were sales ads, etc that he hadn't read and you notice when the bolded things are gone.
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Oh, I don't get anything like that, autospam filters them.
I just wondered if he was looking in his deleted folder or something
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Hi Queenie, Stopping by Recovery to check on you. Sorry about those poor young souls that have passed. Very sad... Can't imagine how the parents must feel. With the boy was there signs? Was he acting depressed? Scary stuff. Sometimes we pass it off as teen angst and then it crosses over and turns deadly.
As for your M, keep taking it one day at a time. That is all that you can do. He is a tough nut to crack but he doesn't know he is living with a squirrel!
As for your weight, it is only a number that can change. In my mind you are one hot Jewish Mama. I used to tell people I am not overweight I am just too short. If I was 6 feet my weight would just be fine!
Take care my friend.
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But it's those wayward characteristics that took so long to become a part of them, takes almost if not longer to go away. And I have been absolutely privledged to watch this happen in my H. Each day I see growth in him, then two steps back, then forward etc.. This is the part of R that is so darned hard to get through. This is the part for me that requires so much patience, and to not want to give up, or believe that the old M will resurface. I'm happy that you are seeing growth, I am too. Your patience is an inspiration to me.
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This is the part for me that requires so much patience, and to not want to give up, or believe that the old M will resurface. I'm happy that you are seeing growth, I am too. Your patience is an inspiration to me. Here's the interesting piece, I NEVER pray for patience. And yet G-d continues to put those things in my life that require it. I need to learn to change how I am praying. Hi Vit, I am seeing growth, but more importantly I continue to grow as a woman, a wife, a mother and a child of G-d. My weight has for all my life been my defining factor of my worth and as hard as I try to lose weight it when I am in that place of non acceptance that I seem to continue to gain and I simply don't have that room. I'm not giving up at all, but you know I'm really tired of feeling that I am less than a human being because I'm fat. I'm who I am today for a reason.
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Hi Queenie, Just popping by to say HI! ...read the last few pages of your thread. ..and I would add that LIFE, period, can at times be HARD.  .. just need to dust oneself off and not give up, as we all have a lot to learn (though taking a pause here and there, breathing deeply here and there, can be very helpful and more importantly it is very....healthy  ) Have a good day, Queenie.
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bump for queenie. No bejeweling us!
Me 55, XWH 53, M 22 years D17, D30 alien replaces my husband "I'm not happy" -7/08 Discover OW-8/08 (his direct report and I work there also) H moves out 10/1/08, confront Ow 10/28/08 Plan B 1/09 D final 12/09
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Thinking of you Queenie. I think you're amazing and I wanted to share the daily motivator I received from FB today with you... 'Outside show is a poor substitute for inner worth'You're a beautiful woman. Hope all is well with you. 
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