This is exactly it. I admire Larry for the most part and think he has a lot to offer.

Tough love is the trait you want from a friend - when we talk about enabling friends on this board - the ones who won't stand up for the marriage - those aren't real friends. They're just conflict avoiders.

The true friend is the one who will tell you to your face you're screwing up and to stop it!

If the people around you won't tell you when you're incongruent with your message, who will?

That's why I say "feedback is feedback" - there's gold in the caring to persist in the face of accusations of abuse and complaints to moderators of abuse and TOS violation.

My favorite Galileo quote comes from a story in my college physics course where Galileo is forced to recant, and while on his knees in front of the court says the Latin equivalent, "And yet, it moves".

Larry - in spite of all your protests - it moves. You can't get away from the facts that you involved yourself via internet in a one-sided drama portrayed by a wayward woman - who was unfaithful to you eventually too. Her character demonstrates that you likely didn't get all the story on her husband before taking her side - which was easy to do since you had also been emotionally hooked into more than just a cyber acquaintance relationship with her.

We care about you too much to let this rest.