MB Forum, Thanks for all the replies. I sincerely appreciate even the brutal ones.
Sorry about my MASSIVE brain dump story. I'll try to keep things brief henceforth.

First: I MET my (now) wife, when my first marriage was a few months from being finalized. My wife was not the OW. There was no other woman. Karma? Yes. I get that. I cheated on my (now) wife with my ex just before the divorce finalized and we had already "moved on", to my great shame.

To MargieLoll: howtoheal is exactly correct. My oldest is from my first marriage. I got custody of her in 99. "OUR" next was born in 01. WE now have 6 with our 7th on the way (definitely mine). Its not common to come across people that have 7 kids in 10 years, but we're one of those families (+ my oldest who lives with us too). I'm the dad of 8! (Seriously), counting the one on the way.

To ouchthathurt: Can you explain cockhold? Is it like being "PW'd"? Sorry for being dense. I am and have been weak. The poja is my new hope.

I'm so new to the forum, I don't know what a Troll is. Is it an "imposter"? posing as real, fictional? Please reply. I am truly not making this (way too long) story up.

Can someone clarify "affairage"? Is there any point in trying to repair one, if mine is in fact one? Again, my (now) wife was NOT the OW during my first marriage.

As for our two phone appointments with Jennifer; Financially, we're on borrowed time. I was laid off most of 09 and now work "out of town" to try and get back on track. We're struggeling financially. I have insurance that will cover counceling but won't go anywhere that's not MB based.

I'll try to learn all the abreviations and acronyms to be more brief.

Sincerely,
After4NoTrust

Keep your posts to one thread, it's easier for those responding to you.

An Affairage is a marriage that began as an affair. It's easy to know if you have one or not. Your post is still very confusing.


You met your current wife and began a relationship with her while you were still married. The divorce was not yet final. Is that correct? If so, then that is adultery. No matter how long the divorce took, or if you and your wife were 'over' (obviously not since you went back and had sex with her one last time).

Your current marriage began as an affair, and typically they have abysmally low survival rates. Many people here, with knowledge and experience, will NOT help you for that simple fact alone (nothing wrong with that btw, as it's pretty disrespectful to ask people who've lived through an affair to help you salvage yours).

Your current wife IS AN OW for your first marriage!!!! If the story of how you met is correct, then she is an OW by definition. No matter that you married her later.

The Harley's are probably your best bet as the mountain you are going to have to climb is sizable. Not only do you have to overcome your and her affairs, you have to fundamentally change your belief system to one not so dramatically broken.

A cuckold is a man with an adulterous wife. Thats you. What's worse is you tried to ENABLE her adultery by agreeing to an open marriage.

Finally, are you sure this last child one is yours? Are you sure any of them are yours?

It is not a good idea to start a new thread on the same issue. You should click the "notify" button and ask a moderator to merge your threads.

Vibrissa, Thanks again for your reply. Sorry about the new thread. I'm learning.

Correct. I met and began a relationship with my second wife BEFORE my first marriage was legally disolved. Until today, I've never seen her as the OW. Your point is well made.I understand the distinction now. So really, I didn't "cheat" on my "girlfriend", I actually became an adulterer based on the fact I wasn't divorced when I beagn the relationship with her. Thank you for helping me see this.

Yes, I'm sure as I can be, short of DNA testing, all my children are mine, including the unborn child.

Sincerely,
After4notrust