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Your adultery is not special or different.
It is a common run of the mill adultery.


Your job now, is to NEVER see or speak to OM ever again.

Are you willing to do THAT?

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SoVerySad, Welcome! ...they're going to fuss you out (at some point)...but at least it gets you moving in the right direction. So grumble if you want but just keep it moving.

(I just began posting here a few days ago as a WW in an EA...and it has been extremely helpful! ...until about 10 minutes ago but I'll be okay in a minute...)

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I have past him 2 times since we broke it off and he was looking at me but I turned my head and ignored him

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My husband is a very jelouse man. He would try to control me and after we got married it got worse. He verbal abused me and sometimes it would push me and slap me. He never bruised me up or anything but I did leave him and would always come back. I loved him so much. I ended up pregnant and after my daughter was born he screamed and yelled a lot. He couldnt stand for her to cry. We were not doing well at all. When she was 6 months he pulled over for a prostitute. He didnt got thru with it but I was so hurt and the whole town knew what happened. I took my daughter and left him. He begged and begged me to come back and I ended up forgiving him

When was the most recent "slap" or "push"?
Did you ever file a police report?
If not, WHY NOT?

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Just reposting what I wrote to the other thread....looks like this will be the one people will respond to!

Sorry you are here...but I'm also GLAD!:D You can repair this marriage!

First thing you need to do is tell the OM g/f soon to be wife that he has been cheating on her since the day they met!! Do you honestly want to put her life in some man's life when all he will do is cheat on her? PLEASE!! Do HER a favor and let her know that her fiance is not the right man!

If you truly want to end ALL contact with this OM, then change your # or send him a NC letter. Block his FB account, change your email, etc...so he can't get a hold of you. Maybe even move out of town!

The next step to do now to fix your marriage is start reading everything and anything on this site. There is a lot of information here and a lot of people that are willing to help you out laugh

Read the book "surviving and affair", and "her needs, his needs" together and do the questionnaire.

Tell your husband EVERYTHING!! I mean EVERYTHING!! I know it is scary but you need to be open and honest with your husband, if you are afraid what he might do then have someone there so he wont do anything rash to you.

Have you told anyone about your A? If not then I suggest you do that, expose to everyone you know and let them know what has been going on in the marriage, don't talk negative about your husband just what YOU did laugh

Also your kids needs to know what you have done as well, they can not be kept in the dark, if you think you can't, just to "protect" them then all you are doing is teaching them to hide and lie, is that what you want?

There are plenty of things to do, but let's start with these shall we?

GOOD LUCK!

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Dr Harley advises that if your spouse is abusive, you move to a safe place.

Why don't you do that?

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My husband doesnt push or slap anymore. He is better now than he has ever been. I want to fall back in love. I want to do away with OM.

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Originally Posted by soverysad2
My husband doesnt push or slap anymore. He is better now than he has ever been. I want to fall back in love. I want to do away with OM.

When was the last physical or verbal abuse from your husband?
This year?
What month?

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You do not get to throw out the

"My H is

Controlling
Slapping
Verbally abusive"

cards ..... and then ignore them.

It does not work that way.

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Domestic Violence

Letter #3

Dear Dr. Harley,

I tried to learn about how Jim thinks, like you suggested, and he eventually agreed to counseling together as a couple. At first, things seemed to be going quite well. He seemed much more caring and expressed a willingness to control his temper.

But on Friday night Jim beat me up. He grabbed me by the hair and threw me around for about 20 minutes yelling the whole time. My whole body aches, especially my neck and scalp. He also tried to crush my head with his hands and tried to strangle me. He relented before I passed out. I am terrified that next time he won't relent in time which would kill not only me but our unborn baby.

Like the last time he hit me, he called his parents to come over. The last time, they tried to convince me that I was the one who drove him to violence, so I managed to get out just as they were arriving. The three of them insist that what Jim does is not violence and that it is my fault for provoking him not his. They say I deserve this kind of treatment.

I am now staying at a shelter for battered women.

I am terrified for my life, terrified that if he and his parents have a part in the raising of this child they will impart these warped values to my child. I don't believe in divorce but see no alternative. When I first wrote you, I thought he was incapable of hurting me to the point of death. Now I see that it is only a matter of time before he kills me and/or the baby.

G.S.
Dear G.S.,

I'm so very sorry to hear about what you've been through. Throughout my professional career, I've tried very hard to keep marriages together. But, short of providing your husband with a cure for his mental disorder, I don't think your marriage can be saved. My original guess that he has a serious mental disorder, perhaps organically caused, is probably correct. The fact that his parents are so supportive doesn't necessarily negate my opinion. Many parents blindly support their children in the face of overwhelmingly damning evidence.

I don't believe that in his more rational moments he really wanted to hurt you, but that's not the point -- he did hurt you when he was not rational, and that makes him too dangerous to be married to. At this point in time no one knows how to prevent him from becoming irrational in the future, and therefore your safety cannot be guaranteed.

In a way, a brain tumor would make everything much simpler to understand, and maybe that's what's causing his violent behavior. But many of the violent men I've counseled are just as dangerous as your husband, and they do not have a tumor to blame it on. If he was truly rational, he would recognize his inability to control himself, and suggest separating until his problem was diagnosed and treated. But that caring perspective is rarely seen in my business.

He will probably want you to return to him, and will probably agree to anything to get you back, even counseling. But his problem may be so serious that no treatment would guarantee your safety with him.

You are now faced with one of the most important decisions of your life: What will you do next. The fact that you and he will share a child throughout life makes the rest of your life dangerous for you, and you should take special precautions to avoid a sudden attempt on your life.

I suggest that you file a criminal complaint for assault and insist on his being given a neurological examination, and a mental health exam. The best thing that could happen to him would be for him to be incarcerated and forcibly evaluated for a mental disorder. Perhaps a mental health specialist would be able to find a solution to his problem. But at the very least you want his violent behavior to be on record. Quite frankly, he didn't do enough damage to convince most judges that he is a threat to you, but I'd file your complaints anyway. The people who work at your shelter should be able to help you follow through on that plan.

I believe that everyone who is ever hit by a spouse should file a criminal report for assault. They should also tell all their friends and family about it. Those who are able to control their tempers, control it pretty quickly when they are faced with incarceration and public scrutiny. While in your case, I don't believe your husband has control over his anger, you should file the report just the same.

I'm sure you have a great deal of compassion toward your husband, and you probably still love him, but your love and compassion could get you killed or maimed if you're not careful. I suggest that you move to where you can be surrounded by your friends and family, for emotional support and protection. Moving may make your life even more chaotic at first, losing your job and moving your things at a time that you're pregnant, but in the end, your life will be much more peaceful and secure.

What's instructive about your case is that your husband has not spent his life in a mental hospital, nor does he have a history of violence. Moreover, he is gainfully employed and has been reasonably successful. When you first met him, he seemed perfect to you, and you fell in love with him. And yet, he is capable of killing you. Most cases of domestic abuse that I've witnessed have involved productive citizens. In one case, a judge, who is still in office, tried to kill her husband with a knife -- in their front yard, of all places!

Domestic violence comes unexpectedly. While it's progressive in most cases, it's often excused as something other than what it is -- until it's too late. Now that you know what you have, a violent husband, you have no choice but to protect yourself and your unborn child from him.


PostScript: G.S.'s ordeal has not ended. She is trying to reconcile with her husband, in spite of my warning. It is my experience as a counselor, that most women do not leave their abusive husbands even if their lives are in grave danger, and G.S. is no exception. Women tend to leave their husbands not when they've been abused, but rather, when they've been neglected.

I am continuing to receive letters from G.S. and may post an update of her situation in a future column.



This is from the website.
Abusive behavior is serious.
It must be dealt with in a serious manner.

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im not trying to ignore it. The last time he has screamed at me was maybe at the beginning of this year. The last time he touched me such n a pushing manner was probably 2007. I asked why he use to be like that and he said because he was young and stupid and that he regretted it.

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Originally Posted by soverysad2
im not trying to ignore it. The last time he has screamed at me was maybe at the beginning of this year. The last time he touched me such n a pushing manner was probably 2007. I asked why he use to be like that and he said because he was young and stupid and that he regretted it.

Screaming = verbal hitting

Adultery also = abuse of your spouse

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Link to books

Is your H on board with MARRIAGE BUILDERS?

Advise him you are working on making the marriage better.
Order some of the books.

Do the EN questionnaire together.
Read about LOVE BUSTERS.

You see, you cannot fall in love with your H while he is LOVEBUSTING.
It will not work.

Have you read the BASIC CONCEPTS?

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Begin HERE and read through every link.

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Originally Posted by markos
Generally speaking, most folks will only fuss at stuff that you are currently doing wrong. Not beat you over the head for stuff you did in the past.

Actually if you try and justify or rationalize the past there may be 2X4s. After all, we should learn from our past mistakes.

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Sovery,

I think you need to be aware that you have two problems and while they may seem to be connected, they really are not.

One problem is your affair and the boundaries you have allowed OM to cross. You need to address this affair and soon. As you can tell you are already starting to get advice on this.

The second problem is your H's abusive behavior. You cannot fix it, you cannot "nice" it away. You need to protect yourself and your children from him until HE addresses both the verbal and physical abuse. You will and have of course fed his jealousy with your affair. You should only tell your H of what you have done in the presence of a counselor or clergy.

Your H MUST address his abuse or there is no marriage to save and you really are risking your children's future by exposing them to this verbal and physical violence. Just them seeing/hearing it is not good for them.

The marriage you both need and should have should be free of the abuse, and free from your lies and deceit. This site is big on making plans and then executing them. You need two plans, one for addressing your affair and your contributions to the failure of this marriage. The other is to address his abuse. You MUST either leave or force your H to face it. He is harming your family, just as you are with your affair.

Please think about this, and then ask lots of questions of the folks responding to you.

God Bless,

JL

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What I really need help with is trying to do away with OM and getting over him for good. Please help me with that.

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Originally Posted by soverysad2
What I really need help with is trying to do away with OM and getting over him for good. Please help me with that.

Just a few questions:

1. Does your H know about the extent of your A with the OM?
2. Does the OMGF(OMW?) know about the A?



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no his girlfriend does not know. My husband doesnt know about us talking after being caught

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