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Yes...that is my belief...


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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Yes...that is my belief...

So....you believe that the privilege of remarriage for a WS depends upon whether they are forgiven by God?

How would that be determined by us humans?

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Repent with God...Full repentance....Go back to your original BS...

Bathshebas H was dead....She could not go back to him....if you are a widow you can remarry....



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And since we are so far down the rabbit trail my brain is hurting, I'd like to get back to my original thought which was that once one marriage is severed the parties are free to remarry. The fact that there is a new marriage in no way indicates the guilty parties are now forgiven for their sins. That is a seperate issue.

Take NC and her husband. She seems sincerely sorry for the marriage she helped destroy. Her husband not so much---backed up by the fact he also had an affair on NC. They are two seperate people who God will deal with seperately.

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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Repent with God...Full repentance....Go back to your original BS...

Bathshebas H was dead....She could not go back to him....if you are a widow you can remarry....

What if you can't go back to your BS because they have married another?

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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Repent with God...Full repentance....Go back to your original BS...

Bathshebas H was dead....She could not go back to him....if you are a widow you can remarry....

She was a widow because her adultery partner kiilled her husband! By your line of reasoning if she was REALLY sorry she would have left David and remained single.

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She does seem truly sorry....She should leave him, given his past and current waywardness and truly repent before God...He seems a lost cause right now...JMHO....

I wish you true peace...whatever your decision, NC...

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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Repent with God...Full repentance....Go back to your original BS...

Bathshebas H was dead....She could not go back to him....if you are a widow you can remarry....

She was a widow because her adultery partner kiilled her husband! By your line of reasoning if she was REALLY sorry she would have left David and remained single.

She did not kill her H....David did....


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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
She does seem truly sorry....She should leave him, given his past and current waywardness and truly repent before God...He seems a lost cause right now...JMHO....

I can't figure out though if he is currently having an affair. Seems like she said he had an affair and she already forgave him for that. Do you know why they are currently seperated?

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No...I thought it was because of his waywardness....but I am prolly wrong...


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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Repent with God...Full repentance....Go back to your original BS...

Bathshebas H was dead....She could not go back to him....if you are a widow you can remarry....

She was a widow because her adultery partner kiilled her husband! By your line of reasoning if she was REALLY sorry she would have left David and remained single.

She did not kill her H....David did....

And still.....if she was really sorry for her adultery with David she would have remained single. Instead, it appears God recognized their marriage as valid in spite of how they ended up married. (by treachery)

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Originally Posted by SmilingWoman
Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Repent with God...Full repentance....Go back to your original BS...

Bathshebas H was dead....She could not go back to him....if you are a widow you can remarry....

What if you can't go back to your BS because they have married another?

Then you remain single....


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The risk you take when you cheat...


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Originally Posted by SmilingWoman
Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Originally Posted by SmilingWoman
Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Repent with God...Full repentance....Go back to your original BS...

Bathshebas H was dead....She could not go back to him....if you are a widow you can remarry....

She was a widow because her adultery partner kiilled her husband! By your line of reasoning if she was REALLY sorry she would have left David and remained single.

She did not kill her H....David did....

And still.....if she was really sorry for her adultery with David she would have remained single. Instead, it appears God recognized their marriage as valid in spite of how they ended up married. (by treachery)

They couldnt bring him back from the dead...God forgives murderers too..He knows if they are truly repentent...


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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Originally Posted by SmilingWoman
Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Repent with God...Full repentance....Go back to your original BS...

Bathshebas H was dead....She could not go back to him....if you are a widow you can remarry....

What if you can't go back to your BS because they have married another?

Then you remain single....

Why? What does that accomplish?

I think we are not going to agree on this. The core difference being, it seems, is that I believe scripture indicates a marriage can be severed and you do not believe that is true. You MIGHT be willing to conceded the marriage can be HALF severed allowing the BS to remarry...but the WS must remain in the original marriage (but without any benefits at all).

Now I must pause to go teach history to a ten year old. Be back later.

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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
I do believe that we are punished for our sins....Dont you, SW?

There are stories of that in the Bible...

@ Still ~
Sweetheart, please read:

1 John 5:11-12 (NIV)
And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.
&
1 John 1:9 (NIV)
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
&
1 Corinthians 15:3-5 (NIV)
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve.
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Hebrews 4:14-16 (NIV)
Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are�yet he did not sin. Let us then approach God�s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

What Jesus Christ did FOR US by TAKING THE "PUNISHMENT" for OUR SINS is what "FREES" us from God's "condemnation/wrath"...
hurray

Remember this song?
"I hear the Savior say,
�Thy strength indeed is small;
Child of weakness, watch and pray,
Find in Me thine all in all.�
* Refrain:
Jesus paid it all,
All to Him I owe;
Sin had left a crimson stain,
He washed it white as snow.

For nothing good have I
Whereby Thy grace to claim;
I�ll wash my garments white
In the blood of Calv�ry�s Lamb.
And now complete in Him,
My robe, His righteousness,
Close sheltered �neath His side,
I am divinely blest.
Lord, now indeed I find
Thy pow�r, and Thine alone,
Can change the leper�s spots
And melt the heart of stone.
When from my dying bed
My ransomed soul shall rise,
�Jesus died my soul to save,�
Shall rend the vaulted skies.
And when before the throne
I stand in Him complete,
I�ll lay my trophies down,
All down at Jesus� feet.
Refrain:
Jesus paid it all,
All to Him I owe;
Sin had left a crimson stain,
He washed it white as snow."

Jesus did for us what we could not do for ourselves...
God bless ~
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I know Christ died for our sins...But I believe you have to be truly repentent....I dont think I ever cared that I slept with my H before we were married and therfore I never asked for forgivness....Never thought about it until it was brought up to me on this forum by someone...

How could my sins be forgiven when I wasnt even sorry for them until now....


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I now believe I am only sorry because something bad happened to me....otherwise I would have never thought about it again...


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1 John 1:9 (NIV)
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness



I never confessed this sin....and if I do now....am I truly repentant....IDK...


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Originally Posted by SmilingWoman
Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Originally Posted by SmilingWoman
Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Repent with God...Full repentance....Go back to your original BS...

Bathshebas H was dead....She could not go back to him....if you are a widow you can remarry....

What if you can't go back to your BS because they have married another?

Then you remain single....

Why? What does that accomplish?

Repentance for the sin of adultery....


BW me-41
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married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered
DDay aug 2007
found MB dec 2007
Moved out april 2008
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Plan B

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