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ok now this may not be the soothing soul music, but put it on in the car and scream. it has made me feel better.





didnt know the second one has references to Platos allegory The Cave-


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Love this one from Matthew West "Family Tree"

You didn't ask for this
Nobody ever would
Caught in the middle of this dysfunction
It's yoursad reality
It's your messed up family tree
And all your left with all these questions

Are you gonna be like your father was and his father was?
Do you have to carry what they've handed down?

No, this is not your legacy
This is not your destiny
Yesterday does not define you
No, this is not your legacy
This is not your meant to be
I can break the chains that bind you

I have a dream for you
It's better than where you've been
It's bigger than your imagination
You're gonna find real love
And you're gonna hold your kids
You'll change the course of generations

No, this is not your legacy
This is not your destiny
Yesterday does not define you
No, this is not your legacy
This is not your meant to be
I can break the chains that bind you

Cause you're my child
You're my chosen
You are loved
You are loved

And I will restore
All that was broken
You are loved
You are loved

And just like the seasons change
Winter into spring
You're brining new life to your family tree now
Yes you are
You are

No, this will be your legacy
This will be your destiny
Yesterday did not define you
No, this will be your legacy
This will be your meant to be
I can break the chains that bind you

And just like the seasons change
Winter into spring
You're brining new life to your family tree now

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Music is so powerful. I was looking at lyrics to some songs I liked to listen to when I was in the depths of my pain and misery of being told by my XWW that she didn't love me anymore. The sadness... the desperation...

Shame- Stabbing Westward

I only see myself reflected in your eyes
So all that I believe I am essentially are lies
And everything I've hoped to be or ever thought I was
Died with your belief in me so who the hell am I?

I'm wondering 'round confused
Wondering why I try
The more that you deny my pain
The more it intensifies...
I pray for someone to ache for me the way I ache for you...
If you ignore that I'm alive
I've nothing to cling to

I stare into this mirror
So tired of this life
If only you would speak to me or care if I'm alive
Once I swore I would die for you
But I never meant it like this
I never meant like this
no i never meant like this

I don't know if I'm real without you
What is left of me without you?
I don't know whats real without you
How can I exist without you?

ETA- I think these songs capture the feelings of sadness and frustration I felt during my long and unrecognized Plan A.

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Another one from Stabbing Westward along those lines....

What do I have to do?


You make it hard to breathe
Its as if Im suffocating
And when youre next to me
I can feel your heartbeat through my skin
It makes me sad to think
This all could be for nothing
I wish there was a way
For you to see inside of me
Ive never felt this way
About anyone or anything
Tell me
What do I have to do to make you happy?
What do I have to do to make you understand?
What do I have to do to make you want me?
And, if I cant make you want me
What do I have to do?

I know exactly what youre thinking
But I swear this time I will not let you down
Im not as selfish as I used to be
That was a part of me that never made me proud
Right now I think I would try anything
Anything at all to keep you satisfied
God I hope you see what loving you would do to me
All I want is one more chance, so tell me...
What do I have to do to make you love me?


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One more from the theme.

This one is Cumbersome by Seven Mary Three.

She calls me goliath and I wear the david mask
I guess the stones are coming too fast for her now
You know Id like to believe this nervousness will pass
All the stones that are thrown are building up a wall
I have become cumbersome to this world
I have become cumbersome to my girl

Id like to believe we could reconcile the past
Resurrect those bridges with an ancient glance
But my old stone face cant seem to break her down
She remembers bridges, burns them to the ground
I have become cumbersome to this world
I have become cumbersome to this girl

Too heavy too light, too black or too white, too wrong or too right, today or tonight
Cumbersome
Too rich too poor, shes wanting me less and Im wanting her more
The bitter taste is cumbersome

There is a balance between two worlds
One with an arrow and a cross
Regardless of the balance life has become
Cumbersome


- To all you BS's out there, the pain will pass. It is so good to be out of the darkness of uncertainty.


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Originally Posted by _SOL
<snip>I know exactly what youre thinking
But I swear this time I will not let you down
Im not as selfish as I used to be
That was a part of me that never made me proud
Right now I think I would try anything
Anything at all to keep you satisfied
God I hope you see what loving you would do to me
All I want is one more chance, so tell me...
What do I have to do to make you love me?


I remember listening to Stabbing Westward when I was in college. I know I am not a BS, but I downloaded this song just this past Feb b/c it made me think of my H. Those first 4 lines above really resonate with me as a FWW.

This one is on my playlist too:

Notbroken - by the Goo Goo Dolls

All I waited for was a chance to make you understand
And tell you these forgotten truths you never thought were real
And if the world should turn its back, you know that I'm still here

Time won't ever steal my soul, we're not broken
So please come home

Morning comes and life moves on
And when it changed you didn't know you belong
And I'll still catch you when you fall through a past that steals your sleep
And scroll these words upon your wall remind you to believe

Time won't ever steal my soul, we're not broken
So please come home
And if the world has worn you down I'll be waiting
So please come home

I won't let them break you down and I won't hear the empty sounds
I'm hopelessly pretending that I know the answer
Angel's light and neon fires that burn so cold through your desires
And all you are is all I need to know

When the world is insane
You get used to the pain and you don't even know what you feel
And I am like you, all alone and confused
But you know it's not forever

Time won't ever steal my soul and we're not broken
So please come home
And if the world has worn you down I'll be waiting
So please come home



FWW

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I'll have to check out the Goo Goo Dolls song. I probably have heard it but not paid attention to the lyrics.

It is neat how music can easily tap into emotions and memories.


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ITA, SOL...music has always been huge for me. I started playing piano 30 years ago and then I was a band geek from middle school through my first couple years in college. It's been a part of my life for a long time.

A lot of what I post is colored by my own failed recovery and may or may not be appropriate for BS's...but to me, personally, this song speaks of love fought for and lost, and for me, my failed recovery.

Stone Sour - "Hesitate"


You were my fire
So I burned
Til there was nothing left of me
I touched your face
I held you close
Til I could barely breathe

Why give me hope
Then give me up
Just to be the death of me
Save the rest of me

Cuz I see you
But I can't feel you
Anymore
So go away
I need you
But I can't need you
Anymore
You hesitate

Now and then
You come around
Like there's something left for me
We were one
We were everything
I'm still here
But I'll just keep the rest of me

Cuz I see you
But I can't feel you
Anymore
So go away
I need you
But I can't need you
Anymore
You hesitate

We never made it
You hesitated
I don't believe

That I see you
But I can't feel you
Anymore
So go away
I need you
But I can't need you
Anymore
You hesitate
Cuz I see you
(See you)
But I can't feel you
(Feel you)
Anymore
So go away
I need you
(Need you)
But I can't need you
(Need you)
Anymore
You hesitate
Hesitate

(You were my fire)
(So I burned)
(Now there's nothing left of me)


FWW

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-For all those in plan B
Romans 12:19-21
"Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written; 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord. On the contrary; 'If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink, In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.' Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.



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Songs are so powerful, and healing. There are some I cry to, and some I scream, to make me feel better. Pep thinks my music tastes are too LOUD. smile I agree, but that's the way I like it.


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Originally Posted by Scotland
Songs are so powerful, and healing. There are some I cry to, and some I scream, to make me feel better. Pep thinks my music tastes are too LOUD. smile I agree, but that's the way I like it.


Right?

I like music across the spectrum. Side effect of a former band geek.


One-two punch;




All That Remains - The Air that I Breathe

I will not relent no no
Never live with defeat, never falter
It's like the air that I breathe(like the air I breathe)
I will not choke on failure
Cause I will not choke on failure

I am a mortal man
But I'm not falling, I'm not broken yet
I am a mortal man
But I hold tight to my beliefs now


I have suffered defeat, pain, loss
Still I push to the edge, never falter

For this cements my beliefs (this cements my beliefs)
I'll remain my own master

I will not relent no no
Never suffer defeat, never falter
For this cements my beliefs (this cements my beliefs)
I will not choke on failure

I am a mortal man
But I'm not falling I'm not broken yet
I am a mortal man
But I hold tight to my beliefs now

I am a mortal man
But I'm not falling I'm not broken yet
I am a mortal man
But I hold tight to my beliefs now


I will not relent
I will not relent, no no
I will not relent
Never suffer defeat never falter
I will not relent, no no

Never suffer
Never falter
I will not relent, no no
Never suffer
Never falter

... er... nevermind the two here.

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This is one of the first songs that really had an impact about how I was feeling after my wife left



Lost -by- Killswitch Engage

It's even louder in the silence and it's always the same
The darkness always finds me when I hear your name
It should have been me and I want you to know
That I'll hold you in my heart and I won't let go
Just take away this sorrow it's too much to bear

Drifting from your memory. I'm lost, lost without your love

Now the time goes by, but the torment remains
If only I could wake and see your face again
There would no more regret for all the things I never said

Drifting from your memory. I'm lost, without your love
It's getting harder to face another day without you
I'm lost, lost without your love

I wish as I was as strong as you were in the end
But the darkness claims me, and I fall once again

Drifting from your memory. I'm lost, without your love
It's getting harder to face another day without you
I'm lost, without your love
It's getting harder to face another day without you
Lost



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To all the Plan Bers out there.



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Great anthem for us in Plan B Scotland. Letting go, but not giving up...

I'm grateful I have moved past screaming along to Alanis Morissette's "You oughta know".


Me (BW): 35
Married 1999 with no kids, DDay July 2011, OC born September 2012, Divorce final November 2012.

WXH (Gollum) is corrupted by his A, and now forever bound to it.

Plan B has set me free.

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Caracal, there is also THIS one. I LOVE this one, and it seems so empowering to me. WARNING. I LIKE LOUD MUSIC(although these 2 were tame).



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Originally Posted by Caracal
I'm grateful I have moved past screaming along to Alanis Morissette's "You oughta know".
Shortly after dday 3 during the angry stage my sister told to listen to "Break Stuff". (warning, explicit lyrics!) I have also moved on from that stage too thankfully!

Right now, I listen to Eminem's "Not Afraid" probably daily. (Again, explicit lyrics.) Probably good for Plan B & D ers. It's funny how different music can resonate with you depending on what you are going through. If you had told me a year ago I would be listening to this kind of music, I would have laughed! Nothing at all what I usually listen to!

And I just can't keep living this way
So starting today, I'm breaking out of this cage
I'm standing up, I'ma face my demons
I'm manning up, I'ma hold my ground
I've had enough, now I'm so fed up
Time to put my life back together right now


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Another song that I have come to love that has helped me have the strength to fight the A with all my power, and it is almost like an anthem for those of us in Plan A.







Courageous by Casting Crowns


We were made to be courageous
We were made to lead the way
We could be the generation
That finally breaks the chains
We were made to be courageous
We were made to be courageous

We were warriors on the front lines
Standing, unafraid
But now we're watchers on the sidelines
While our families slip away

Where are you, men of courage?
You were made for so much more
Let the pounding of our hearts cry
We will serve the Lord

We were made to be courageous
And we're taking back the fight
We were made to be courageous
And it starts with us tonight

The only way we'll ever stand
Is on our knees with lifted hands
Make us courageous
Lord, make us courageous

This is our resolution
Our answer to the call
We will love our wives and children
We refuse to let them fall

We will reignite the passion
That we buried deep inside
May the watchers become warriors
Let the men of God arise

We were made to be courageous
And we're taking back the fight
We were made to be courageous
And it starts with us tonight

The only way we'll ever stand
Is on our knees with lifted hands
Make us courageous
Lord, make us courageous

Seek justice
Love mercy
Walk humbly with your God

In the war of the mind
I will make my stand
In the battle of the heart
And the battle of the hand

In the war of the mind
I will make my stand
In the battle of the heart
And the battle of the hand

We were made to be courageous
And we're taking back the fight
We were made to be courageous
And it starts with us tonight

The only way we'll ever stand
Is on our knees with lifted hands
Make us courageous
Lord, make us courageous

We were made to be courageous
Lord, make us courageous


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Originally Posted by DG23
We were made to be courageous
Lord, make us courageous

I Pray Lord..... pray


BH(Me)= 55
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DD=24 (My step-daughter, been raising her since the age of 8, SHE'S MY DAUGHTER!!)
Married=13 yrs
Together=16.5 yrs
THIS IS MY STORY
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D-Day=July 4, 2011
Dear Wife: I'm COMPLETELY CRAZY about you!.....as of Aug-2012 forget that last part....Good Luck to you and GOODBYE!!
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Married 8 years, together 12 years
DS 6, DS 1
D-Day1-5 Feb 2011-I was 8 month pregnant,-D-day2-April 2011, D-day3-5 August 2011
Separated June to August, WH came back for a week, but couldn't make it and moved out. Came back home 12 September after I spoke to his boss and "blackmailed" him.
Plan A - 12 to 25 Sept
Plan B - 26 Sept - 26 October
Another FR 26 October - 16 March
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Not sure Rik Emmett has first hand experience as a BH but he sure sings about the unrepentant wayward.

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M 29 yrs
DS 28 DD 18
Me 53 FWH FBS
MTA signed 5/11/2011
D final 5/16/2011

Free.... and going wherever the big guy wants me to go......
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