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Pretty much anything VOICE activated from Radio Shack or Best Buy will do. Also, get some velcro to secure it so it doesn't go slipping around and fall out at her feet. Be careful you cover any lights on it HEAVILY with tape so they don't shine and draw attention.
Every man I meet is in some way my superior; and in that I can learn of him.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt
WW left and went down to FL (from TN) for a week with a friend we both trust. WW contacted OM about the complaint with the IG and the exposure to all of OM's FB contacts. He said to stop with the IG or he will be coming for me. Needing a little backbone for the next step, which is a phone call with him and me that I will record. I have a digital recorder, is that the best thing to use? ALso, what do I need to get him to admit to? I can imagine the conversation going something like this: ME: Hello is this Angelo F...? OM: Yes. ME: The one who slept with my wife Allison after she told you no, and that she was married and had a 7 year old child? OM: Yes.(there may be some hemming and hawing here where I can tease out extra details, like how he contacted her on FB, how many times he contacted her, how he got her to agree to go to the hotel room. ME: Well you know that I've already contacted your IG right? OM: ANd if you don't back off that I'll be coming for you. ME: So your saying that even if you had a direct order from your commanding officer to stay away from me and my family, that you would disobey that order? OM: Yes ME: Why? OM: Because this is between me and your wife.... At this point I would guess I'd have all I need and can start focusing on other stuff, like teasing out exactly why he would disobey a direct order. What that means to him etc. Any suggestions?
BH(me) 39 DDay Jan,2 2012 DS-7 years old Plan A- Jan 18 2012
WW left and went down to FL (from TN) for a week with a friend we both trust. WW contacted OM about the complaint with the IG and the exposure to all of OM's FB contacts. He said to stop with the IG or he will be coming for me. Needing a little backbone for the next step, which is a phone call with him and me that I will record. I have a digital recorder, is that the best thing to use? ALso, what do I need to get him to admit to?
Tell your WW to tell the OM he can explain his threat to the IG. Tell her to tell him that HELL IS COMING!
Don't talk to that loser. You have nothing to say to him. He is just going to attempt to bully you. Don't give him that pleasure.
Here is the message you need to send to the scumboy:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt
In fact, why not send that clip to your wife and tell her to share it with the OM?
And tomorrow, get Mortarman's help in calling the IG BACK and filing a formal complaint.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt
ascending, take this predator down, and this is all he is! You have Mortarman and GJM on your side (with a helluva lot of connections), and the full resources of everyone on this board.
File the formal complaint that MM told you to do, and do it tomorrow!
Every man I meet is in some way my superior; and in that I can learn of him.
I already filed a formal complaint with the IG for 1st Cavalry at Ft Hood. They are supposed to call me back for the evidence. I will call them back tomorrow with the evidence of the phone call I will now record with the OM. It should be pretty obvious to you all that I won't be bullied by him. THe more he threatens the more recorded evidence I have to hit the IG with.
Any suggestions for improvements on the script I layed out above? Thanks
BH(me) 39 DDay Jan,2 2012 DS-7 years old Plan A- Jan 18 2012
I will leave others to advise you on how to script the call, but I would certainly provoke him as much as possible if you believe you can get it on tape. His ego and arrogance could be his downfall and the legit proof that they say you need.
Every man I meet is in some way my superior; and in that I can learn of him.
"my wife has told me all about your affair. I would like to hear your side of the story."
"what are you intentions with for my wife?"
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt
My wife told me that. But I'm going to get a recording of him threatening me directly.
She is probably BS-ing you. However, Being a sniper in Afghanistan and being a sniper here are worlds apart. It's not like he can check his rifle out of the armory and come get you.
OTOH, why would your wife find this acceptable? She doesn't sound all that innocent. Contact the police and see what they might say when you tell them your wife is sleeping with a guy and they have threatened your life.
CV
Celtic Voyager Married 22+ years 3 young adult children
OK had a nice 28 minute recorded conversation with Angelo. Its all nicely recorded. Here are some choice quotes.
"I want you to tell the IG that you can�t keep your wife. And you got no proof that I slept with her. All its gonna be is pain. Your pushing your wife away."
"Your wife, I just got off the phone with her, right before you called. Your wife knows that I will destroy your [censored] punk [censored]."
"Your such a big man on the phone, that�s why your wife wants other guys."
"Actually call your wife on 3 way so we all can talk."
"You didn�t win [censored]. When that ball drops, and your wife is still [censored] other dudes, that�s going to be your problem."
"How are you raising your son there?"
"When the IG talks to me, I'm sayin we�re just friends."
"I�m telling you, its gonna be lovely, when we�re together."
Finally he asks if I'm alone. I say I'm not. He hangs up the phone.
BH(me) 39 DDay Jan,2 2012 DS-7 years old Plan A- Jan 18 2012
I wish I could run into that guy. Don't back down. I would let him know that you don't care what he does or can do. He has no idea what a man protecting his family is capable of. That really makes me mad. He's hiding behind his Army status. Remember, he was a civilian a lot longer than a soldier. He has more to lose than you do. He can say that your W and him are just friends all he wants, but if it's affecting your marriage and you've asked him to back off, the Army should tell him the same. They'll wonder why this POS is so adamant about remaining "friends" with her. Keep doing what you're doing. Your W will realize one day that you're fighting for her and she will regret what she has done.
Me: BH 36 Her: WW 34 Kids: D 14, S 12, S 9 DDay 1-6/2009 DDay 2-9/2011 DDay 3-11/2011 Filed for D 10/2011-Papers Served 11/2011 Divorce final May 24, 2012 My Story
Finally he asks if I'm alone. I say I'm not. He hangs up the phone.
Wow. He threatens, taunts and rants BEFORE thinking of this!!! POSOM really doesn't seem too bright huh? Smarts and self-control seem lacking in most affair partners, I think this is where WS's really "affair down".
Ascending, I just wanted to add to your thread as your exposure and strength are awesome. I hope with time your WW is going to see the man who is fighting for his family as the better option. If not, you know you have done what is right.
Me (BW): 35 Married 1999 with no kids, DDay July 2011, OC born September 2012, Divorce final November 2012.
WXH (Gollum) is corrupted by his A, and now forever bound to it.
OK, right now its on a little 35$ Olympus digital recorder. Should I just send that to the IG? Should I make a digital recording of this recording and send/email that?
BH(me) 39 DDay Jan,2 2012 DS-7 years old Plan A- Jan 18 2012
Make a digitally recorded copy and send it to him. Tell him you want a military protective order for POSOM to maintain zero contact with your wife. Good luck brother!
WW-30 Me BH-35 OM-1 EA/PA for 2.5 yrs OM-2 EA/PA 3 mos Married since Nov 2002 DDay-April 4th, 2011, DD#2-four days later DD-3 Working on recovery