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Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.



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Scanty,

the pain does lessen. Like someone said, it doesn't completely go away, but you get used to your new situation, so to speak. I remember the intense, horrible pain you're experiencing. I was actually suicidal and had to be prescribed antidepressants. To give you a little background - my H had a 1.5-yr PA and then about 6 more months of EA (we moved, so they couldn't see each other anymore). I was destroyed. Like you, I felt like I lost all my identity. I also lost a baby at 23 wks and later found out that he was seeing OW during that time and that's why he wasn't there for ME while I was in so much emotional pain. Anyway, 5 years later I can finally say I'm doing better. Our marriage is better. I am unofficially following MB principles and he does too, although he told me he was reading something else. He and I need to get on the same page, LOL. We also had counseling, which helped us deal with the emotional pain at the time.

Looking back, I can't believe how much pain I was in. It really is better now. The other day, while talking to a co-worker who knows nothing about my marriage problems, I surprised myself by saying I had no regrets regarding marrying young and my marriage in general. Wow! That was the first time in the last 5 years that I felt this way.

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I appreciate all the kind hearted advice here. However, I really don't get why everyone assumes that I don't have full disclosure and/or that "I" even believe that I don't.

None of you are me. You aren't in my specific situation. You don't know what he has told me and the reasons why I absolutely believe I have the truth of everything I need to know. My post was not even about "how" to heal. I was simply asking if it's possible to not have pain anymore. Inevitably subjects of how people have healed or are attempting to heal will come up. I get that and some of it has been helpful and I know it was all given with good intentions.

But I absolutely have full disclosure. Zero doubts. End of story.

I will likely buy the book Surviving an Affair, since apparently it is the only thing in the universe that can possibly save my marriage, but I think I'm done with this thread. It's too hard to read.

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Originally Posted by Scanty
I will likely buy the book Surviving an Affair, since apparently it is the only thing in the universe that can possibly save my marriage,

I don't know of any other program that CAN and I have been reading for 11 years. Most don't even believe that the romantic love can be restored to your marriage. Marriage Builders is completely different from any other plan out there.


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Originally Posted by Scanty
I appreciate all the kind hearted advice here. However, I really don't get why everyone assumes that I don't have full disclosure and/or that "I" even believe that I don't.

None of you are me. You aren't in my specific situation. You don't know what he has told me and the reasons why I absolutely believe I have the truth of everything I need to know.
Sorry, Scanty. We can only go based on your descriptions of how the situation unfolded; indeed as you say, we aren't you, and we only have the facts you've shared with us. If there are other concrete actions or circumstances that give you assurance, to which we're not privy, I'm truly glad if that's the case. I just know (as a former wayward) that it's important for a betrayed spouse to go based on facts & evidence, where practical.

Originally Posted by Scanty
My post was not even about "how" to heal. I was simply asking if it's possible to not have pain anymore. Inevitably subjects of how people have healed or are attempting to heal will come up. I get that and some of it has been helpful and I know it was all given with good intentions.
Short answer: Yes, it's possible. Of course, it's not random; there are things you can do to better your odds of that outcome, and it seems you've done certain of them; but that gets into "how to heal" territory, so I'll leave it at that.

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I will likely buy the book Surviving an Affair, since apparently it is the only thing in the universe that can possibly save my marriage, but I think I'm done with this thread. It's too hard to read.
I didn't mean to elicit the sarcasm. My recommendation for you to get SAA indeed came with sincere good intentions, and I don't get a dime for saying so or for posting to you on Labor Day Weekend. SAA is not the only way to healing; there may be others. But what it's all about is bettering your odds, and I figured you might be interested in that.

Gimme a shout if you have other questions sometime later on.


Me: FWH, 50
My BW: Trust_Will_Come, 52, tall, beautiful & heart of gold
DD23, DS19
EA-then-PA Oct'08-Jan'09
Broke it off & confessed to BW (after OW's H found out) Jan.7 2009
Married 25 years & counting.
Grateful for forgiveness. Working to be a better husband.
"I wear the chain I forged in life... I made it link by link, and yard by yard" ~Jacob Marley's ghost, A Christmas Carol
"Do it again & you're out on your [bum]." ~My BW, Jan.7 2009
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Scanty,, what we are trying to tell you is that the fastest way to make the pain go away is to make the present GREAT. That is what this program achieves.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Scanty,

How are you today?

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Originally Posted by Scanty
However, I really don't get why everyone assumes that I don't have full disclosure and/or that "I" even believe that I don't.

Because, most likely, you would have shared the full disclosure means and methods with us as it is very pertinent to the discussion/question. If you are comfortable with the information you have, then great. If you have zero suspicions that it was a PA then great.


Yes, it is possible to heal from an A. So is climbing Mt. Everest but not without proper training and gear.


Dr. Harley has hundreds of success stories under his belt which is widley published. There is a very good reason why SAA is one of the best selling books of all time on the subject.

SAA is your training and gear to climb the R mountain.

Without it, I do not believe we would even be in R.


best of luck to you. I really mean that.




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Originally Posted by Scanty
For anyone else who responds to this thread, I really don't need anymore comments suggesting he may be lying about not sleeping with her. I have wrestled with that on my own, listened to his heart, looked into his eyes and firmly believe he is telling the truth. Please leave the subject alone. I just want to know about the pain truly going away. That's all. I appreciate it.
You and I have that in common, although my H had a year-long emotional attachment to OW. I know beyond the shadow of a doubt they had no carnal knowledge of eachother.

Still it was 10 months after NC before the wound to my identity and ego had healed enough that I could pull the rusty knife out of my gut, and once again have a healthy appetite for food.

The pain is going away. I thought it might never stop hurting. My H has followed rigorous EP's and insists on deep and radical honesty, never tires of keeping me posted on his whereabouts. THOSE are the things that made the pain start to recede for me, in addition to fulfilling EN's, avoiding LB's, talking out everything.

The farther away your H gets from No Contact with the OW, the clearer and clearer his head will be.

Wishing you success in your recovery,
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Married 31 years, 5 kids, 4 GK



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