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Originally Posted by lorakm
I will do that. Also, I keep asking them if I can see her. They are pretty much telling me she's fine and I will see her soon. Also asked me not to contact them during work hours. But I think its important to prove I am asking and they are refusing
Yes and keep the proof.

You need to ask specifics. I would like to see my daughter on Sunday the 16th will 1:00 work for you? If they say no keep asking for a date and time.

Be careful about contacting them during work. How are you corresponding? Text?


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Yes, stay in the house, and keep asking for your daughter via text or email.

Say would this and this time work for you? Stay calm, no offensive words, nada.

And you are the mother, you have every right to take your child home with you, get the police involved.

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Good idea about specifics and staying in. I will try that. Yes we are communicating via text and vm. I have emailed a few times to ask again if he will do counselibg with no response. I plan on joining a church tomorrow. I will also be getting some kind of job so I can prove I am willing and able to provide for her.

I agree I should be able to see her, and take her home, but the police aren't helping me at all.

This is all so sad. Never thought the one person who has stood by my side for the two years during my custody battle would become my worst enemy. I have to hold on to who I am and find a way to smile and have hope.

I have my 10 and 8 yr old girls next weekend, and they are going to wonder and be sad they can't see their baby sister. That's going to be tough.

I kind of want to go out and find another man's shoulder to cry on, because I feel so betrayed and alone. Also, he did that (with a woman) when we almost split up a year ago. I know its probably not the best idea. Would probably just be another thing to use against me in the divorce. I have ONE friend here I met at a bar. She's a sweet lonely girl and I am going to meet her tonight. She wants to meet for a drink, I will be careful about that (plus don't have the money for it) and make sure I don't do anything questionable. She also wants me to try her church in the morning. It's better than being isolated in this house.

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Do NOT go and find another man. Then you're no better than him. You're still M it's your job to protect your love bank from the wrong person making deposits.

Concentrate on seeing your DD.


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Okay I will be good. I agree, what I explained to him last year-it isn't over till it's over. I am leaving him and his mother alone for today. Other than to tell him I won't be moving out until further notice, so I will take care of the dogs.

Going to see my girlfriend tonight. At least that will get my mind off of my broken heart.

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Meet her for coffee, not drinks. No alcohol, remember? Better choices start today.

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Right, you don't want to get caught partying, that would be bad!

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Well I don't think she wants just coffee. I HAVR to get out of this house. I don't have to drink though.

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Priorities. You tell her that alcohol has contributed to these problems and that you'd like to go for coffee or something instead. You have to start with making these boundaries, tonight.

Lora, I worked in police services for 8 years. Your situation is pretty bad, even amongst the bad ones I've seen. You are really at risk of losing full custody of your 3rd child, if not to him, to foster care, because of a PATTERN of poor decision making. Start tonight. Venting to a specific friend is not going to help you more in the long run then establishing your boundaries by avoiding situations where alcohol is present.

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Originally Posted by alis
Priorities. You tell her that alcohol has contributed to these problems and that you'd like to go for coffee or something instead. You have to start with making these boundaries, tonight.
Exactly!


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Originally Posted by alis
At the minimum, a domestic violence shelter can provide you with a support worker to assist through court proceedings (not as legal aid obviously but they may be able to get you in touch with that too).

This is an excellent suggestion

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Originally Posted by lorakm
Will check it out when on a computer..no I haven't been in AA. Not all of our fights are alcohol related. When I was pregnant I was sober that night. I have only been a casual drinker, that's why I didn't want to drink those shots he was buying the other night. But after the other night I have sworn alcohol off. It had a.major role in the mean things I said that made him get the baby and run. And the thing is that I didn't even mean the things I said. Now my big mouth has ruined my life.
Do you have an attorney? You need one. NOW.

And you need to stop with the alcohol.


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I kind of want to go out and find another man's shoulder to cry on, because I feel so betrayed and alone.
Huh? Why in the world would you want to find some man and go blubbering on his shoulder?? Do you think that would help you? In what way?


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No attorney, no money. Tried legal aid. Have a pending app with a place that does assistance.

The other man idea was a passing thought because of the pain and isolation I feel right now. Didn't and won't do it. If there is any hope for the marriage another man will ruin it, and would only make me look bad in court.

I miss my baby so much. This has been a wake-up call for me regarding alcoh
ol. I hate it, and I hate that it could possibly be something to come between my daughter and I.

While I was out of the house he came here last night. I know because there was a light turned off that I always leave on. But I've asked him several times to return some photos of mine from his office, and some things he has in his truck, and he STILL didn't leave them for me.

Again, he won't help me move out or give me my things, and won't file for divorce. I know my focus doesn't need to be on him, but I do want to fight for my marriage, and I am seeing these as signs of hope. But maybe its just so he can keep tabs on me.

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I encourage you to visit an AA meeting.

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Okay I will give that some thought. Woke up today and he's turned my phone off now. it's in his name so he can. Dont get why he's fighting so dirty.

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He is doing this because he can. Right now I would get a job and get my own phone. Stay where you are, too. Do not file for divorce either until you can get your daughter back. I would also get all the documentation of everything he has done including any injuries. You need to get all the ammo that you can get. Good luck.


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So don't file for divorce because I hope he will come back with my daughter? I just don't get him taking the time and spending the $ to file for Temp Custody, but not divorce. Maybe that is a sign of hope. Is it a good thing for possible reconcilliation when a spouse talks div but does not file?

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Just received contact from stbxh. He said "sorry about all this. I just want our daughter to be safe. I know you love her but I can't afford to lose my relationship with my daughter. What do you want?"

Asked him to turn phone back on so we can discuss it. Not sure what he means by asking what I want when I've emailed almost daily asking to reconcile....will update when I hear back.

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