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Yes there is, but I don't think she would be willing. Like I said, right now she hates me.


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It's almost like she is enjoying seeing me like this.


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Originally Posted by bnmt
Yes there is, but I don't think she would be willing. Like I said, right now she hates me.

Understand. Maybe you could try offering the invitation. I'll sleep on it and see if I can think of any alternatives .... lack of sleep isn't helping.

Is there anything she is interested in that doesn't require travel that you could do for her at home. Maybe something you can give her to enjoy in her own time. Then you coudl gradually progress to an outing/date when she is ready.


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The OP has moved out because of his abusive behavior, AO, and controlling behavior but I am concerned because he is also being asked to essentially date his wife before radical and PERMANENT changes within himself has occured. I am concerned for the wife since not enough time has elapsed for these changes to have occured for her to be safe in the relationship. Just my 2 cents.


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I feel I have made radical changes in myself. I agree I have a lot of work to do. But Id like to start to mend what I've broken. Im just afraid its too late.


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Radical permanent changes is the key. Time will show her that this is the case or not.


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Originally Posted by bnmt
I feel I have made radical changes in myself. I agree I have a lot of work to do. But Id like to start to mend what I've broken. Im just afraid its too late.
Well you can only change and control yourself.

I would continue to work on your Anger Management and strengthen your relationship with your kids. Do you have any of your progress from your Anger mgmt/counseling sent to your BW? If she doesn't want it then respect that, but have you offered?


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Here are some good clips.
Radio clip
Radio clip
Radio clip on Anger in marriage

Tell us what you think.


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The radio clips are very insightful. Especially the second one. It sounds a lot like me. The more I listen the more scared I get that I've done too much damage.


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Originally Posted by bnmt
The radio clips are very insightful. Especially the second one. It sounds a lot like me. The more I listen the more scared I get that I've done too much damage.
That's why you need to keep concentrating on changing yourself whether your BW takes you back or not.

What did you think of the advice that Dr. H gave?


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He's awesome


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Originally Posted by bnmt
He's awesome
Yes he is.

I can post more radio clips if you'd like. Just tell me what you would like to hear.


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Here's another show. Tell me what you think.
Radio clip on Angry Outbursts
Segment #2
Segment #3
Segment #4


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I need help with the depression of being away


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Originally Posted by bnmt
I need help with the depression of being away
Are you taking any ADs? Are you exercising? Praying, meditating?

What are you doing?


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Originally Posted by bnmt
The radio clips are very insightful. Especially the second one. It sounds a lot like me. The more I listen the more scared I get that I've done too much damage.

There have been amazing cases where people have recovered a happy marriage even after divorce. And at this point, am I correct that she has not filed? Be patient, keep working, make yourself transparent to her, make her aware of the fact that you are willing to change for her and working to change for her, make conversation with her, give her the freedom to withdraw, pull back, or test you when she chooses.

How long has it been since your affair? How long has it been since your angry outbursts?


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Originally Posted by bnmt
I need help with the depression of being away

I encourage you to take up exercise.
A lot of exercise.
Extreme exercise will KILL depression. And make you look and feel better

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Not sure what AD's are. The only thing I've been doing is working on myself. Studying reading listening. No Markos she hasn't filed yet. And i'm not sure what you mean by transparent. I'm not supposed to initiate contact. Its been 7 months since my EA and a month since an AO


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Originally Posted by bnmt
Not sure what AD's are. The only thing I've been doing is working on myself. Studying reading listening. No Markos she hasn't filed yet. And i'm not sure what you mean by transparent. I'm not supposed to initiate contact. Its been 7 months since my EA and a month since an AO
AD=Antidepressants


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oh yeah, im definitely taking those. Gonna have to start exercising too


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