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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
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Ex ww has told children that she plans on attending our church.
Any suggestions on how I should respond if she shows up at church in the near future?


Apologies if this is addressed elsewhere in your thread but is your wife a practicing Catholic? If she is not, then you should expect that this was said to wind you up and just ignore it.

If she starts attending the same church services at the same church on a regular basis, then she will be 'stalking' you and Visitation should be notified. Let them negotiate a solution.


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Email received from Visittion Center:

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VC staff will address this with Ex ww

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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
Okay. Boy I'm more nervous than when I sent the exposure letters!

Here we go.
I'm sending the letter now.
Sending copies to my 2 SIL that I have relationships with.

I removed an additional paragraph based on advice I received from another forum. Here is the final letter:


Dear ex MIL

I would like to thank you for your efforts to be involved in my children's lives.�

However when we recently picked you up in December to accompany us to the skating rink, there was a strong smell of alcohol on you. I suspect that you were intoxicated.�

Throughout my marriage to your daughter there were periods of sobriety followed by relapses.�

At this time we will no longer visit with you. Please do not call, write or make any attempt to contact the children or myself.�

I am open to re-establishing a relationship in the future if you maintain sobriety for at least a year and it is verified by a third party professional or sponsor (not a family member).�

The children and I love you and hope that you will do so.�

Respectfully�

JEDI

Last night, as the kids and I were watching TV "someone" came to my front porch and left a gift bag and box addressed to the kids from "a secret admirer". I'm certain it was MIL.
This upsets me because the kids could have seen her.
I'm thinking that a formal letter of no trespass, served upon her by the Sheriff would be a logical response for not respecting my boundaries.
Any thoughts?

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What was it...candy and toys?

Unless you (or someone else) saw her deliver it, the police would probably do nothing.


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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
Last night, as the kids and I were watching TV "someone" came to my front porch and left a gift bag and box addressed to the kids from "a secret admirer". I'm certain it was MIL.


I know finances are tight for you right now but I have had great success with a $150 Panasonic webcam. It is motion activated and stores the history of what it sees which you can then view over your browser.


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Originally Posted by Northwood8900
What was it...candy and toys?

Unless you (or someone else) saw her deliver it, the police would probably do nothing.

It was candy.
And I did not pass it on to the kids.
I know the police won't do anything but I can have the sheriff serve her with a notice of no trespass for little to no cost. I was thinking this may dissuade her from future unauthorized visits

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Might as well; it's not like you have anything to lose from it. Maybe she will take the hint.


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Just when I think I have it all figured out... The kids and I are at a play park and a beautiful woman is there with her kids.
I immediately was attracted to her sexually.
If I am going to remain single I think I should just not speak to women because otherwise I won't be able to think logically.

I really like how dr Harley stresses logical thinking, absent emotions.
But there is something inside of me (hormones I suppose) that causes me to be attracted to beautiful women.
I questioned my thinking as I looked at this woman, as I felt this attraction to her.
I FELT like she was beautiful and sexually attractive. I asked myself Why do I feel this way? She could be an idiot or retarded; she could be a drunkard or addict; I don't know anything about her.

But the sexual drive was there absent any reason. The procreative drive

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email received from visitation center:

Jedi,

We have spoken to ex ww about appropriate conversation during the visits and on Feb. 10, the staff monitored the visit very closely. ww denies having this conversation with the children and the staff have been unable to substantiate inappropriate conversations.



On January 27, ww made the request (1) for staff to relay her concern regarding the cleanliness and odor of the children, (2) inappropriate conversation occurring at your home and (3) would you communicate with her (ww) using the Family Wizard program.



As we have informed ww: the Visitation Center is a neutral third party that provides a safe place for supervised visits and we encourage both parties to work on positive co-parenting for the health, welfare and future of the children.


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I am submitting the court required Notice of Relocation today......I listed June 5 as the move date (school ends june 4)

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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
Just when I think I have it all figured out... The kids and I are at a play park and a beautiful woman is there with her kids.
I immediately was attracted to her sexually.
If I am going to remain single I think I should just not speak to women because otherwise I won't be able to think logically.

I really like how dr Harley stresses logical thinking, absent emotions.
But there is something inside of me (hormones I suppose) that causes me to be attracted to beautiful women.
I questioned my thinking as I looked at this woman, as I felt this attraction to her.
I FELT like she was beautiful and sexually attractive. I asked myself Why do I feel this way? She could be an idiot or retarded; she could be a drunkard or addict; I don't know anything about her.

But the sexual drive was there absent any reason. The procreative drive

I applaude your resolve to put your children's interests first. Don't forget though that you can change your mind about remaining single until they are adults.

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YesTerday I submitted a notice of intent to relocate out of state with the court.

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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
Just when I think I have it all figured out...

See this? Right there is your problem. Thinking you have it all figured out. None of us do. None of ever have it all figured out. Isn't that exciting? A never ending learning process.

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I have a question.
My SIL told me that my FIL mentioned that he was going to stop by and visit the kids.
He lives in AZ. We are in Ohio.
He is traveling through.

He ended up enabling my wife in her adultery by paying an attorney for her.
He also bought her an affair phone.

Should I have anything to do with him?


Also this Chrismas he mailed $200 to his daughter (SIL) and my
MIL other daughter (he is no relation to her at all). My kids? Zero.

I sent a Facebook message to my BIL in AZ at Christmas asking for address so we could mail cards.,,, he blocked me and didn't respond.

Should I reach out to FIL or just cut him out ?

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Cut the FIL and BIL out.

While it's nice for the children to know their mother's side of the family, that should be with the condition that those relatives have morals to begin with.



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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
I have a question.
My SIL told me that my FIL mentioned that he was going to stop by and visit the kids.
He lives in AZ. We are in Ohio.
He is traveling through.

He ended up enabling my wife in her adultery by paying an attorney for her.
He also bought her an affair phone.

Should I have anything to do with him?


Also this Chrismas he mailed $200 to his daughter (SIL) and my
MIL other daughter (he is no relation to her at all). My kids? Zero.

I sent a Facebook message to my BIL in AZ at Christmas asking for address so we could mail cards.,,, he blocked me and didn't respond.

Should I reach out to FIL or just cut him out ?
Jedi
I would confirm with the FIL that he indeed intends to "stop by." if you're like me this would constantly on your mind until you know for sure.
At that point you can either be straight and say you would rather he didn't and why not (a tough conversation probably) or just start making plans for the week (a trip to Lake Erie perhaps). He's several states away so maybe it won't be tough to duck him until he gets tired of the notion.

I drove by my ex-FIL's house yesterday (may her Rest In Peace). Speaking of Erie...
I always had respect for him for NOT financing my ex's divorce pursuit even though he could have buried me for sport (and I was always fearful of that).
Life is so complicated.
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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
My SIL told me that my FIL mentioned that he was going to stop by and visit the kids.

Would your children enjoy a brief visit with him?

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Email received from ex wife:
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When is the egg hunt at the xxxxxx church? DD8 asked, last Sunday, if I wld go. I said I wld."

What is the proper plan B response if any?

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Lately, I have Been thinking about the issue of adoption.i understand that there are millions of children without parents.

Is it reasonable and healthy for me to consider exploring adoption?

I have an 8 and 6 year old girls and a 10 year old boy.
I have full custody.
What is your opinion of exploring adoption of a boy around my kids age?


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You are a single parent with 3 kids.

Your plate is full now.

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