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Since your wife (and likely the OM) are attorneys you need to be a little careful how you handle things. Snoop carefully and come back here for a plan before confronting your wife. Too many times BS's think they can just get the truth from their WS's with just a little evidence. Yours may just continue denying AND go all attorney on you seeking to punish you for inteferring with her affair. It usually takes more than you think to overcome the wall of denial. We already know she's having an affair so you aren't getting the evidence for any other reason than to convince her with proof that you absolutely know she is and she can't deny it anymore. Also...so you can expose it to the world with confidence and evidence. Considering how brazen she's being [just spending the night out] I'm guessing her secrecy is more about protecting the OM. I bet HE is married [and his wife is out of town this week] and one of the first steps will be seeking out his wife to inform her, with proof, of the affair with your wife.
Please stay sober. You haven't got a shot otherwise. It's awful what she's doing to you but you'll be OK however this turns out. If this sobers you up permanently...you can call this a win-win even if you end up divorced.
Godspeed, Mr. W
FBH(me)-51 FWW-49 (MrsWondering) DD19 DS 22 Dday-2005-Recovered
"agree to disagree" = Used when one wants to reject the objective reality of the situation and hopefully replace it with their own.
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Thank You for the boost. Play it low key and calm and collected. Sober I will be. Got a meeting in an hour. Always makes me feel good after attending.
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Good man! And please, please pay close attention to MrW's advice. It is important that you get some good evidence. A PI can provide this. Since your wife is an attorney, we need to do this right so exposure does not blow up in your face. Get the best intel you can get. It may make the difference between saving your marriage or losing it.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Meeting with the PI tomorrow. Expensive, but need to do this right and try to save the marriage. Keep you posted.
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The OM potentially being an attorney is a dual edged sword. If your WW and the OM were or are on opposite sides of cases while carrying on an affair could lead to disbarment.
The upside of this is that being presented with the facts may be highly effective.
One would hope that one or both of them would recognize the jeopardy they place their careers in by carrying on with potential opposing counsel.
But do as has been suggested, get the facts, ensure you have the details documented. Also, should you need counsel, be careful who you choose as it's possible either of them has a channel to any legal counsel you might get should you need it.
Brother, I'm praying you don't need it. Stay strong and Lead the Way Ranger!
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Just got a text message from her that she is just now going into the office from wherever she was staying. She said she would be home later today to discuss everything if I was availabe. What the hell does that mean? I'll be cool and see what she has to say.
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Just got a text message from her that she is just now going into the office from wherever she was staying. She said she would be home later today to discuss everything if I was availabe. What the hell does that mean? I'll be cool and see what she has to say. Did you find a PI? When she shows up, don't accuse her of having an affair and don't agree to anything. For example, she may tell you she wants to "separate" and "get some space" to "think things over." That is code for "want to get rid of you so I can carry on my affair." Don't accuse her of that, but at the same time, don't cooperate with any separation schemes. And whatever you do, DO NOT MOVE OUT OR AGREE TO MOVE OUT. Most of all, let her know you are very disappointed but don't get angry and don't lose your temper. She will attempt to trot out all of your crimes going back 20 years. Be prepared for that, and just agree with her. AGREE that you have been a bad husband and tell her you are willing to change. Leave it at that. Just be cool like James Bond. Can you do that? AND carry a VAR in your pocket in case she tries to accuse you of anything. We have had wayward wives call the police on their husbands with false accusations of abuse.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Meeting PI tomorrow morning.I'll be cool. I have to be....
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And whatever you do, DO NOT MOVE OUT OR AGREE TO MOVE OUT. x1000
One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger
I will not spend my life this way.
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This is my house. I pay the bills. I won't even agree for her to move out. Nervous and excited at the same time. If she has been gone 4 days, the news can't be great. We will see.
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FWW/BW (me) WH 2nd M for both Blended Family with 7 kids between us Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.
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She came home last night, finally. I kept my cool the whole time. We had a talk. Mostly me. She kept bringing up blame and my mistakes, and her hurt. She wants to separate. I refused politley. I told her I wanted her to come home and work this out. She says a part wants to work it out, but she's uncertain if my changes will last. She still wont tell me where she is staying or who. Whe know who (OM). She must have bought some clothes and left them there. When she left friday, she had her business attire and only 1 change of clothes. Gone for 4 days. Not like her at all. Slept in the spair bedroom. I know she was texting the OM. She took her phone in the bathroom for about 15 minutes. I know she had to go (Heard the sounds of upset stomach), but.... I asked her out for a casual dinner and her response was maybe, we'll see. I got a feeling she will be back with the OM tonight. I guarantee it. Killing me. I recorded conversation, but she is smart and didn't say anything I could use. I made the mistake of kissing her goodnight. She let me, but should have kept my distance. I meet with the PI this morning.
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You did everything perfect, including giving her a kiss! Just stick to the course, get the goods, and we will help you with you next steps.
You did just great!
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Nerves are shot, but charging on. Tried to get into her cell phone while she was in the shower, but she put a password protection on it. Never had that before. I think she did that when I first confronted her last week the night she never came home and accused her of being with someone. At least we talked, shared some time with the dogs in bed and a latte. I'll keep you posted.
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You might benefit from an antidepressant. Could help with keeping your stress level under control.
Just be sure to level with you dr about you alcohol history and don't drink at all while on meds.
Hoping the best for you.
Me 58: FWH (NC 32 yr), W 60, married 36 yr, DD 32
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If she bought clothes and personal supplies while gone, you may learn something by checking credit card transactions. Could identify the neighborhood she was in or other useful clues.
Me 58: FWH (NC 32 yr), W 60, married 36 yr, DD 32
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She left this morning for work, kissed me back. Told her I love her, but no response. So just left it at that and told her to have a great day. Met with PI and got the process initiated. Geeting ready to plant the GPS.
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No. I know where she shops.
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PI came up empty handed so far. GPS Tracker brought him to a townhouse just a few miles down the road. Car still parked in a closed garage. She hasn't left all day or even gone into her law practice. He called it a day. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This isn't like her. I saw here yesterday at her office. I had to get some papers notorized by her paralegal. She came out, i kissed her and she was ok with it. She also said she was coming home last night and never did. Still haven't heard a word since yesterday afternoon. Still playing it cool.
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Who lives at the townhouse?
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