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It is a small world and I found someone that works with the OM. I don't think there is anyone to expose for the OM besides the employer because he is separated from BS due to a different affair. He has no facebook account or other online accounts. The OM seems like a dead end. OM is saying things like: "I managed the same bs the way I could back when I was busted. Now its time for u to figure out what your are doing". I really want to include an email to him during exposure. Based on what I am reading into the messages, OM wants A but isn't pushing. I wonder if he would feel guilty for destroying a family and end the A until WW ends marriage.
As for the employer, I was thinking WW's manager and HR. I think my WW's manager will actually be the biggest impact at work because she is very professional and this will cause her to view WW negatively.
I am not directly concerned of exposing OM2 because that affair is not active with WW. The OM2 is having affair now with WW's BFF. I am more concerned to expose OM2 to WW's BFF because that will cause BFF to break friendship with WW.
WW is telling friends "I just want to runaway. Need to clear my head. Gain understanding as to what I need to be happy"
I can tell she has no idea what is in store. She thinks I am being very calm. I have been trying to have a calm front to avoid to many love back withdrawals. I have been doing the Plan A behavior since I learned of it a month ago.
I am so tired it is difficult to think straight. I am thinking of drafting emails, call scripts, people to notify, etc but not doing it until I sleep on it. I think I need a clear mind to proof read the messages and double check the plan.
Someone above asked about how I had disrespectful judgments toward WW. Looking at questionnaire, probably "Does your spouse seem to feel that his opinion is superior?", " Are you afraid to discuss your points of view with your spouse" are probably the 2 biggest (just guessing). I am very analytically and WW is opposite. I actually like that aspect about her because it pushes me outside of my comfort zone. Though on big changes like going back to school, another child, buying house etc, I want to talk through all the options were I feels she just wants to act. I think the issue was probably more of delivery, tone, and expressions. I sometimes get busted making faces that I don't even realize until she calls me out on it.
So now back to exposure plan, does my game plan look correct? Based on where we are now, is there anything that you would do differently?
BH 38 WW 38 D-Day 3/4/14 Married 12 years DS 7 (special needs)
It is a small world and I found someone that works with the OM. I don't think there is anyone to expose for the OM besides the employer because he is separated from BS due to a different affair.
BINGO!! He is married. I would get to his wife. He probably is not even separated. Even so, separated means MARRIED. I would make finding her YOUR MOST IMPORATNT MISSION!
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"I managed the same bs the way I could back when I was busted. Now its time for u to figure out what your are doing". I really want to include an email to him during exposure. Based on what I am reading into the messages, OM wants A but isn't pushing. I wonder if he would feel guilty for destroying a family and end the A until WW ends marriage.
He won't feel guilty, but OM are cowards and cry babies. You can run him off if you have a face to face with him and tell him to hit the road.
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As for the employer, I was thinking WW's manager and HR. I think my WW's manager will actually be the biggest impact at work because she is very professional and this will cause her to view WW negatively.
You should certainly expose to HR so formal proceedings will take place.
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I am not directly concerned of exposing OM2 because that affair is not active with WW. The OM2 is having affair now with WW's BFF. I am more concerned to expose OM2 to WW's BFF because that will cause BFF to break friendship with WW.
Isn't he a VP? If so, I would expose him to HR and to his wife.
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So now back to exposure plan, does my game plan look correct? Based on where we are now, is there anything that you would do differently?
I would add the OM's wife to your list and plan on meeting up with OM once you are done with epxosure.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt
OMG - After hours of searching, I think I found OM's address and BS's facebook account. I have reached out to her on facebook to confirm if I am right. I am crossing my fingers hoping I am right.
"You can run him off if you have a face to face with him and tell him to hit the road. " Is this really a good idea? I am willing to do anything!
BH 38 WW 38 D-Day 3/4/14 Married 12 years DS 7 (special needs)
"You can run him off if you have a face to face with him and tell him to hit the road. " Is this really a good idea? I am willing to do anything!
Yep!! Just leave your pistol in the car.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt
p.s. take a big guy friend with you as a witness. Tell him that holy hell is coming his way if he doesn't stay away from your wife. Here is the message you should be sending that piece of crap:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt
I only wish I could find OM1 but all search attempts have failed. He only appears in linked in.
Try www.veromi.com I have good luck with that as it usually also gives potential family members too. You will find OM1 if you keep up your searching, the key to my finding OM2 was a hobby of his. Be creative in your search strings use quotes in google etc.
OMG - After hours of searching, I think I found OM's address and BS's facebook account. I have reached out to her on facebook to confirm if I am right. I am crossing my fingers hoping I am right.
How far away does that POS live? Can you drive over there?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt
Yes, OM1 lives relatively close. So if I could confirm, I could drop by.
OM2 lives on east coast and stays in company owned apartment when in town. I am not sure where that is but I am not worried about OM2. I expect company will not like VP having affairs with multiple employees on company owned property. I also know he is married so his wife can kick his [censored] when he gets back home.
The OE/PA with OM1 is what I am really concerned about. He is a computer geek (like me) so I think I only need to take my black belt brother with.
BH 38 WW 38 D-Day 3/4/14 Married 12 years DS 7 (special needs)
Yes, OM1 lives relatively close. So if I could confirm, I could drop by.
Great! And maybe you will find a wife that. If so, tell her all about the affair. Let weiner boy sit there like the worm he is and squirm while you tell her everything.
OM2 lives on east coast and stays in company owned apartment when in town. I am not sure where that is but I am not worried about OM2. I expect company will not like VP having affairs with multiple employees on company owned property. I also know he is married so his wife can kick his [censored] when he gets back home. [/quote]
I would expose him. Expose him to HR and to his wife. He is fostering a culture of adultery in this company.
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The OE/PA with OM1 is what I am really concerned about. He is a computer geek (like me) so I think I only need to take my black belt brother with.
Perfect!! Your brother can be your witness.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt
I wish I read that an EA and PA should be exposed the same before last night. I did ask her about sex toys and it turns out I think that is innocent. Though, I asked her if she was lying about the affair question I had asked in the past and she admitted to an affair years ago that she claims ended years ago. Though, it is a coworker and I know they still talk and I think it is back to EA status if not more.
WW -> OM U still want Me event though i'm defective WW -> OM Stress not helping. Worring about what's going on with U & me, home, work, family b/s WW -> Friend "OM text me last night but didn't reply when he thought Mike was with me" WW -> Friend "OM is trying to be silly this morning. Omg So hot & cold. Its gotten old" WW -> OM Wish you where here
In hind sight I should have waited but I kept the exposure card up my sleeve. I still don't know last name.
I know this made a hit on the love back but it did lead to a conversation that revealed one love buster of mine had been disrespectful judgments. She shared lots of feelings but still states she doesn't know who she is anymore and is not sure if she wants a different life.
Do I let her get comfortable and get more proof & last name?
I know I went a little off script but I didn't realize EA should be treated the same. My head is still spinning so I am not always thinking straight.
Cards held up one's sleeve do nothing but scratch, itch, and chafe the skin. You are a fool not playing it.
As for the employer, I was thinking WW's manager and HR. I think my WW's manager will actually be the biggest impact at work because she is very professional and this will cause her to view WW negatively.
I am not directly concerned of exposing OM2 because that affair is not active with WW. The OM2 is having affair now with WW's BFF. I am more concerned to expose OM2 to WW's BFF because that will cause BFF to break friendship with WW.
Why are you still half a$$ing on exposure?
A work place exposure needs to include the CEO/owner, the Board, the Director of HR. Supervisor's have been known to put their own interests first over stopping an affair. The work pressure must come from the top down.
Called parents, facebooked close friends, contacted BS2 (wow OM2 was not happy), my WW is pissed I told BS2 and claims they didn't have affair. Though I know he was having affair with her BFF so she needed to know either way. I am waiting for BS1 to call me, I got a hold of her sister and she is suppose to call.
I am just a chicken when it comes to contacting employer.
I was intentionally omitting owner because he has a long time affair with a coworker there. I know his opinion. I actually think HR director and WW manager are best options.
BH 38 WW 38 D-Day 3/4/14 Married 12 years DS 7 (special needs)
Also, how wide should I cast the facebook net? Should I contact co-workers she is friends with? Should I contact friends that she is not super close to?
BH 38 WW 38 D-Day 3/4/14 Married 12 years DS 7 (special needs)
Also, how wide should I cast the facebook net? Should I contact co-workers she is friends with? Should I contact friends that she is not super close to?
Good job on exposure.
Other than OM's BW, who on OM's side did you expose to?
FWW/BW (me) WH 2nd M for both Blended Family with 7 kids between us Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.
Also, how wide should I cast the facebook net? Should I contact co-workers she is friends with? Should I contact friends that she is not super close to?
Don't focus on epxosing to her facebook friends. Expose to the OM's. And yes, you need to expose at work ASAP. You have already started the flood so don't give them a chance to pre-empt you.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt